"Dana S. Tellier" wrote:
> especially if it's
> considered to be our machine (which, if you work for a company, it is NOT
> yours).

I share this opinion. I love this opinion. I wish people understood that
there is no such thing as "MY MACHINE" when you are at work. 

>  If the sysadmins and engineers
> spent as much time talking about security and working things out as we've
> spent talking about it on this list, all of the problems would be solved.

That is what we are doing. This thread has helped us all understand the
reasons behind why engineers and sysadmins do what they do, and it helps
us relate to the situations that we encounter in our every day jobs. 

Kenny

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Kenny Lussier
Systems Administrator
Mission Critical Linux
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