In a message dated: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:25:30 PDT
"jim t.p. ryan" said:

>I guess I just don�t see the idea that trying to make as much money as possible
> and hard work are mutually exclusive.  I mean, the people at Microsoft (Bill 
>Gates included) work extremely hard, they simply want to get paid as much as p
>ossible for it.  But their work ethic is still sound.

We have no problem with a sound work ethic or making a lot of money.  We have 
a problem with the *WAY* they make their money.  They do so by lying, 
cheating, stealing, and bullying.  If you don't believe me, go look at all the 
various court transcripts where they have been found guilty of such things 
IN COURTS OF LAW!!!!  Read a few third party accounts of the history of MS.  
The book GATES, though dated now, is quite an interesting read.  Talk to those 
who have been unfairly forced out of business by MS.

The work ethic of the lower level grunt may be sound, but not that of the 
founders and officers of the corporation.  If you really believe that they 
have a sound work ethic, you're more naive than I thought anyone could be.

>In just don�t have the same perception of this country.   The president aside, 
>I think the majority of the people that I have worked with were good, hard wor
>king people.  I like to think the glass is half full.

The glass is half full alright, the problem is that what's in it is completely 
unsuitable for consumption.  Derek's right, this country is quickly losing 
ground.  This nation has become one of greedy, lazy, power-hungary, control 
freaks, and that's being nice to them!

The average person is a nice, honest, hard-working fellow, but that same 
person is also relatively lazy, doesn't want to rock the boat, and is usually 
unwilling to stand up for what is idealistically right if it places them in an 
uncomfortable position, inconveniences them in any way, or presents any risk
whatsoever to their lifestyle.
-- 
Seeya,
Paul
----
        "I always explain our company via interpretive dance.
             I meet lots of interesting people that way."
                                          Niall Kavanagh, 10 April, 2000

         If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



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