"Kenneth E. Lussier" wrote:
> 
> By telling people how to be insecure, we would be contributing to the
> increasing attitude of complaceny. If we make it hard to get answers on
> how to be insecure, then people will fight it less and understand it
> more. It's like making stupidity physically painfull. The more it hurts,
> the less people will do it. After all, the more people accept security
> as a way of life, the less inconvient it becomes.

Wasn't it you who was just recently claiming that stupidity SHOULD be
painful?
(* Sorry - that's off topic and argumentative, but I couldn't resist ;)
*)

Allow me to relate an experience to you.

A couple years ago, when I first started working with the team I'm with
now, one of my boss's employee's (in a separate department) was
suspected of corroborating with a competitor.  My boss came to me and
asked me to find a way to transparently be copied on all email coming
from or going to that employee.

Privacy issues aside (I'm NOT looking to start that debate *grin*), I
started delving into how to do it.

At the time we were using the ever popular sendmail.  I looked and
looked, tried and tried, but could not figure out how to get sendmail to
do that.  (Granted, I was, and still am, completely hopeless when it
comes to sendmail).  In my frustration, I turned to the sendmail group
who (at least at that point) would actually field user usage questions.  

I explained what I was looking to do, and why.  Their response?  The
equivalent of "Screw you - we disapprove so figure it out yourself".  

My response?  I dropped sendmail and went with exim.  (Which I still am
very much an advocate of over sendmail).

My point?  (Yeah, I do have one here somewhere)  By just making
judgements rather than helping and offering suggestions to alternatives,
we run the same risk - distancing ourselves and alienating folks,
thereby driving them to other camps.

> PS Like I could resist an open invitation like THAT???

*heh*  Why do I think we have another very long thread coming on?  ;)

--
Women who seek to be equal to men lack ambition.

Cole Tuininga
Network Admin
Code Energy, Inc
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(603) 766-2208

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