In a message dated: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:57:41 EDT
Cole Tuininga said:
>"Kenneth E. Lussier" wrote:
>>
>> By telling people how to be insecure, we would be contributing to the
>> increasing attitude of complaceny. If we make it hard to get answers on
>> how to be insecure, then people will fight it less and understand it
>> more. It's like making stupidity physically painfull. The more it hurts,
>> the less people will do it. After all, the more people accept security
>> as a way of life, the less inconvient it becomes.
>
>Wasn't it you who was just recently claiming that stupidity SHOULD be
>painful?
>(* Sorry - that's off topic and argumentative, but I couldn't resist ;) *)
Nah, that was me :) Granted, we're related and have similar views. Though,
for the record, Derek and I are in no way related, but still have (amazingly)
similar views (to the point where it's really scary sometimes :)
>Allow me to relate an experience to you.
>
>A couple years ago, when I first started working with the team I'm with
>now, one of my boss's employee's (in a separate department) was
>suspected of corroborating with a competitor. My boss came to me and
>asked me to find a way to transparently be copied on all email coming
>from or going to that employee.
>
>At the time we were using the ever popular sendmail. I looked and
>looked, tried and tried, but could not figure out how to get sendmail to
>do that.
You were looking in the wrong place, you needed procmail :)
>I explained what I was looking to do, and why. Their response? The
>equivalent of "Screw you - we disapprove so figure it out yourself".
>
>My point? (Yeah, I do have one here somewhere) By just making
>judgements rather than helping and offering suggestions to alternatives,
>we run the same risk - distancing ourselves and alienating folks,
>thereby driving them to other camps.
Yeah, it's a good point, and one well taken :)
I apologize to whomever the poster was for deriding your need to do your job.
It was harsh, probably uncalled for, and not helpful in the least.
Sorry.
--
Seeya,
Paul
----
"I always explain our company via interpretive dance.
I meet lots of interesting people that way."
Niall Kavanagh, 10 April, 2000
If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!
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