To all,
I will, as probably will be Bruce McCulley, over at KSC soon to talk with
the appropriate people concernng this thread.
It has been an excellent thread on several levels (snide snips overlooked)
and, yes, there is much to be learned from this.
Jerry
>On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote:
>
>> OK, what will help in convincing the administration that ANY system
>> connected to the outside world can be used to crack? It's unfortunate
>> that this happened, and I realize their reaction is to try and prevent
>> future problems, but the reality is that the crackers will now use
>> other available computers.
>
>I suspect the issue here is that the system in question probably was
>managed by reletively inexperienced system administrators who were not
>under the umbrella of the University IT department. I might suggest
>petitioning the staff (figuritively or litterally) to provide the students
>with such a box, which they "oversee" so that there's some accountability.
>
>Might work, might not. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
>
>> My concern here is not to get a Linux box in (much as I would like
>> it), but to ensure the Keene State admininstration understands that
>> it's not technology, it's attitude, that creates crackers, and that
>> their actions have done NOTHING to protect themselves, merely created
>> an illusion of security. In the long run, it will bite them bigtime
>> when one of these incidents happens using a "secure" machine (and I
>> mean when, not if - even if they booted the crackers out, there will
>> be others). Even worse, unless they take a proactive attitude (which
>> is not retribution, but education and understanding), they will
>> themselves get cracked, most likely from the inside. This is a
>> reality based on real-world statistics - most computer breakins /
>> crimes happen from the inside, not the outside.
>
>Jeff, this is a most excellent point. Perhaps we could write the
>University to explain this situation. MarthaJo, if you could provide us
>with some contact info...
>
>
>
>--
>Derek Martin
>Senior System Administrator
>Mission Critical Linux
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