WOW.
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000, Derek Martin wrote:
>
> I suspect the issue here is that the system in question probably was
> managed by reletively inexperienced system administrators who were not
> under the umbrella of the University IT department. I might suggest
> petitioning the staff (figuritively or litterally) to provide the students
> with such a box, which they "oversee" so that there's some accountability.
Yes, this is exactly how it works here! There is little to zero real
supervision, and with the exeception of an occassional adjunct
taught night course, we have no classes that cover Linux (next semester the
cool adjunct IS teaching "Linux Security"). There is no formal instruction
prior to being sys admin, the current admin helps train a new admin for the
following semester. One of the reasons being admin is so attractive to people
is that we have almost no other Linux education offered.
It's a matter of balancing the fact that screw ups WILL happen if anyone is
going to learn anything, with the fact that some screw ups must never happen no
matter what. The responsibility should not necessarily be placed
solely on the shoulders of the person trying to learn. Even the worst of screw
ups will happen from time to time, thus guaranteeing that the KSC chem labs will
always have showers. At least they finally moved the computer labs so they
aren't right underneath the labs without drains.
In terms of the admin who was overseeing the box at the time of the cracks,
well, it was summer. It's altogether possible that no one person was actually
responsible for the box, or that they were pretty much in name only.
There were 2 or 3 crackheads involved, and no, neither were current
or former KSC students. The FBI took the box for awhile, and I was told 2
people were caught. I have Network Programming in a couple hours with one of
the cool adjuncts who knows a lot more about what happened. I'll pick
his brain.
As far as the names issue goes... I will feel pretty mortified if
anyone I encouraged to join this list yesterday finds themselves lambasted
before they even get oriented. Give them at least a week.
-MJo :)
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