Ciao all, this is my first email to GNOME Love (so if you DO recollect my name, then you have a memory problem :)
Joachim, I feel what you are saying and what David is proposing are not two essentially conflicting points of view. David wants to give an option to GUI users to learn how to use the command line: he feels user that want to go to the next level may enjoy such didactic tool. His proposal seems brilliant to me: while performing every day activities with GNOME a user can also learn how to solve the same problems using a terminal. Such feature would be optional and disabled by default, so not to get in the way of those users that would be only confused by it. Please, also notice one last thing: adding such an option would not mean that GNOME hackers have to stop doing every possible effort to spare the terminal to those users that would rather not touch one with a long stick: in an ideal GUI environment, no user has to use the command line, but that doesn't mean that learn how to use one is not a good thing. OK, one more point and I am really done: the more fundamental reason why I *really* like David's proposal is that it goes in the commendable direction of helping users to better understand how computers work. And that's in my opinion is the most user-friendly gift any GUI can give to its users. My 2e, Christian Sasso Owning knowledge is wrong. Knowledge should be shared, that's what it exists for. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joachim Noreiko Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:16 PM To: David Berg; [email protected] Subject: Re: [gnome-love] Where to make a policy suggestion? --- David Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason I'm writing is a complaint I've had about GUI's in general > since I started with linux around '99. They do too good of a job of > hiding the command line. They are great in that the make the learning > curve more gradual and give you an idea of what is possible. I think > that they could go a step farther though and do a wonderful job of > teaching the command line. > > So here's the feature request I'd like to file: The command line that > is to be run should be visible to the user before it is run. For > example if I burn a CD in GnomeBaker, I should see the `cdrecord > dev=/dev/cdrom image.iso ...` line in a status bar underneath the > "start" button when I initiate the burn. Simple question: why? If a user can burn a CD in GnomeBaker, why show them some arcane and hard to remember command? Every single time I find something that needs the command line, I go looking for a GUI alternative. Why? Because GUIs are easier to learn and remember. I want to focus on the things I am doing, not remembering how to apply a patch, how to get a diff out of CVS, or how to burn a CD. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ gnome-love mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-love _______________________________________________ gnome-love mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-love
