Hi everyone, I'm not a developer but I would like to add my opinion that the Raindrop idea adds to the shell in a vital way.
It's fine to have a composited desktop with animations, overlays etc, but what popular desktop environment doesn't have these things in various forms. Integrating social networking into the shell itself is progressive, not only enabling working with applications, documents, files, the OS etc, etc, but directly with other people. If we could take this even further and share applications, desktops, files etc through the same shell/social network functionality then I believe we are then moving the desktop into the 21st century. The composited desktop is nothing new, and an overlay in itself won't help me stay connected with the online communities I'm a part of. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2009 11:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 12, Issue 25 Send gnome-shell-list mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnome-shell-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: raindrop messaging integration (William Jon McCann) 2. Re: raindrop messaging integration (Sriram Ramkrishna) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:35:21 -0400 From: William Jon McCann <[email protected]> To: Bryan Clark <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: raindrop messaging integration Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Bryan, Yeah it sounds like we do have similar goals and it would be great to be able to work well together. It seems like the Message Tray may be a natural place for our designs to fit together. While I don't have a good idea of what this may mean yet (still digesting the links you sent) I wanted to say it sounds like a great idea with a lot of potential. Would like to hear what you and others think. Thanks, Jon On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Bryan Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey - > > We just announced the release of Raindrop [1] a new messaging system we've > been working on for a little while now. ?I'm announcing to this list because > I think Raindrop could provide a lot of value to gnome-shell as many of the > design goals are similar. ?It's likely best to read the introduction blog > entry [2] and look over the limited code documentation [3] if you're > interested but I'll give the 30 second run down here. > > Raindrop is being designed as a message system specifically for how people > communicate in today's web environment; i.e. email, mailing lists, twitter, > etc. ?The system itself is a CouchDB daemon service that knows how to pull > down your email and twitter (process and index them) and then can serve them > back as JSON objects. ?Raindrop includes a built in messaging web > application that also gets served from the same place, you'll see demos of > it in the videos. > > We only had the chance to do a couple iterations and are working to develop > some real web apis [4] which could be useful for integration of contacts, > messages, and other data Raindrop provides. > > I'm not suggesting that gnome-shell pulls in Raindrop today and starts using > it, we are definitely not ready for that. ?I am hoping that gnome-shell > people will find Raindrop interesting and that we can start looking at how > we could work with each if it makes sense. > > Let me know if there are questions. ?I still can't seem to run the shell > with my thinkpad nvidia card but am looking for another system to try it on. > > Cheers, > ~ Bryan > > [1] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/ > [2] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/2009/10/22/introducing-raindrop/ > [3] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop > [4] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/WebApis > [*] http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/10/22/raindrop/ > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:32:46 -0700 From: Sriram Ramkrishna <[email protected]> To: William Jon McCann <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: raindrop messaging integration Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I went and built raindrop just to see what it can do. I haven't quite gotten a good grip on it yet. It seems though that integration with Zeitgrist might have some advantages. I don't know what a visual shell and raindrop would do other than notifications? sri On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:35 AM, William Jon McCann < [email protected]> wrote: > Hey Bryan, > > Yeah it sounds like we do have similar goals and it would be great to > be able to work well together. It seems like the Message Tray may be > a natural place for our designs to fit together. While I don't have a > good idea of what this may mean yet (still digesting the links you > sent) I wanted to say it sounds like a great idea with a lot of > potential. > > Would like to hear what you and others think. > > Thanks, > Jon > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Bryan Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey - > > > > We just announced the release of Raindrop [1] a new messaging system > we've > > been working on for a little while now. I'm announcing to this list > because > > I think Raindrop could provide a lot of value to gnome-shell as many of > the > > design goals are similar. It's likely best to read the introduction blog > > entry [2] and look over the limited code documentation [3] if you're > > interested but I'll give the 30 second run down here. > > > > Raindrop is being designed as a message system specifically for how > people > > communicate in today's web environment; i.e. email, mailing lists, > twitter, > > etc. The system itself is a CouchDB daemon service that knows how to > pull > > down your email and twitter (process and index them) and then can serve > them > > back as JSON objects. Raindrop includes a built in messaging web > > application that also gets served from the same place, you'll see demos > of > > it in the videos. > > > > We only had the chance to do a couple iterations and are working to > develop > > some real web apis [4] which could be useful for integration of contacts, > > messages, and other data Raindrop provides. > > > > I'm not suggesting that gnome-shell pulls in Raindrop today and starts > using > > it, we are definitely not ready for that. I am hoping that gnome-shell > > people will find Raindrop interesting and that we can start looking at > how > > we could work with each if it makes sense. > > > > Let me know if there are questions. I still can't seem to run the shell > > with my thinkpad nvidia card but am looking for another system to try it > on. > > > > Cheers, > > ~ Bryan > > > > [1] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/ > > [2] http://labs.mozilla.com/raindrop/2009/10/22/introducing-raindrop/ > > [3] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop > > [4] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Raindrop/WebApis > > [*] http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/10/22/raindrop/ > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-shell-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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