On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:50 AM, William Jon McCann <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Sandy, > > (I'm out of town and short on time today but wanted to reply quickly) > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Sandy Armstrong > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I have a few questions regarding Tomboy in gnome-shell 3.0: >> >> 1) Will there still be a regular old notification area available, so >> that Tomboy can run in the tray as it always has? (obviously running >> in the tray is evil, blah blah blah, let's not get into that right >> now) > > Not really... We should be porting applications away from it as soon > as possible. I was going to make a separate announcement about it > once I got a few more things done but since you brought it up :)
Okay, that's really fine, thanks for clearing it up. > As you know, in GNOME 2, we had a mix of system components and > application notification in the notification area. In GNOME 3, we're > providing a separate and exclusive place for the system status items. > And we've designed a new way to provide notifications to the user that > aims to puts the user in charge of the balance between disruption and > information - the Message Tray > [http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray]. > > Core system components that use the notification area should be ported > to be shell provided system status items. Applications that use > notification area status icons should be now be ported to use the > Message Tray. I've started to put together a porting guide, and it > isn't complete: > > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Guidelines/MessageTray/Compatibility Cool, I'll check this stuff out. >> 2) Are there any new or upcoming features in gnome-shell 3.0 that >> would allow Tomboy to reimplement its note menu directly in the shell >> (something like right-clicking the app icon), so that the notification >> area icon would no longer be necessary? > > We have some plans for adding jumplist-like functionality, at some > point, so that applications can supplement the drop down menu > available on App Icon launchers. Actually weren't you looking into > adding that? But basically, if no one wants it enough to write it I > doubt it will get done. Yeah, I proposed something, didn't see much feedback, got distracted. Looks like this cycle might be a good time to pick it back up. I don't expect you guys to do all the work here; I am just not up-to-date on shell news and wanted to make sure I knew what the current status of this sort of thing was. > But we really want to not use the status icon in any case. Yeah, it is gross. > You didn't ask but we probably want to have a way to search through > notes directly from the search box of the shell. But again someone > needs to write it. Sure sure. >> 3) Will gnome-shell 3.0 support extensions that modify the shell UI in >> arbitrary ways? > > Not in a way that an application should expect to be able to use. > Extensions are not APIs. Right, and that makes sense. I was just curious. :-) > Basically, Tomboy or any notes app is an app and should behave > consistent with other applications. Hope that helps a little. Let me > know where you think we need more clarification. I think that's very clear, thanks. I don't think Tomboy is "special" or should be treated as such. I do, however, think that the note menu provided by the tray/applet is something I don't want to lose. In fact, I think it's useful outside of the context of Tomboy, too, hence my interest in more general jumplist support. So it sounds like the answer is that if I want something like the Tomboy note menu, that is a menu that is available without explicitly switching to Tomboy, with pinning capability, I need to get kicking on some patches and specs for jumplists in gnome-shell. Thanks, Sandy _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
