Hello Gavin, thank you for reporting Florian comments. I'm happy they are considering removing the title bar... About the top bar, I think that it's too poor of capabilities, it's a wasted space...
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Gavin Engel <[email protected]> wrote: > Donato, > > There was a recent discussion about titlebars, and Florian Mullner gave > some amazing comments on the topic. I will quote him, because it sounds > like it may be something you are asking about. At the bottom of this quote > he gave links to 2 great mockup pages. (*Hopefully he doesn't mind me > doing this...*) > > Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:14 AM > > > Hey, >> On vie, 2011-10-07 at 09:43 +0200, Aurélien Naldi wrote: >> > some personal thoughts: >> > * The title bar IS too large by default, reducing its size using >> > gnome-tweak-tool helps >> Note that the default size has been decreased in 3.2 >> >> > * I LOVE the fact that unity hides the title bar for maximized windows >> > and I think gnome-shell should do something similar. >> It is something that designers are considering. There are still a lot of >> open questions, but I think it's fairly safe to say that we won't >> "merge" the titlebar with the top bar as Unity does (e.g. window >> controls won't appear in the top bar), but rather hide it completely. >> >> > * As the main focus was about the menu bar, I have to say that I like >> > the unity behaviour for maximized windows, but I hate it for other >> > wondows, having to make sure the right one is focussed and move to the >> > top is cumbersome. >> I don't think we want to do that, except for "global" application >> options which should appear in the application menu (the one with the >> lonely "quit" action). In fact, there's the feeling that many >> applications could do without a menu bar to begin with (obviously not >> LibreOffice/Gimp, but pretty much anything "less complex")[0][1] >> >> > As a result here is what I would love in gnome-shell: >> > [...] >> > * merge the menu bar into the title bar: we get pretty much the same >> > behaviour as unity for maximized windows, but something much more sane >> > for other windows. >> This has the potential of reducing the draggable titlebar area to zero, >> so I don't think it is a very compelling option :-) >> However, if an application's menu "bar" is reduced to a single toolbar >> button (similar to the menu buttons found in Firefox/Chromium), it might >> indeed make sense to move it into the titlebar (ignoring for a moment >> that it would be far from trivial to implement it). >> >> Florian >> [0] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Whiteboards/Menus >> [1] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/ApplicationMenu > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Malcolm <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:39:09 +0100 >> Donato Marrazzo >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Unfortunately, in the last years notebook adopted 16/9 ratio for their >> > displays: it seems that the primary job for a laptop is watching >> > movie!!! What a shame! >> Hi >> Have you tried the F11 key, that's what I use on my netbook? >> >> -- >> Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890) >> openSUSE 11.4 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop >> up 2 days 2:10, 5 users, load average: 0.45, 0.30, 0.20 >> GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 285.05.09 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gnome-shell-list mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-shell-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list > > -- Cordiali Saluti *Ing. Donato Marrazzo*
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