> > > > > From: dantr...@mirthil.org [mailto:dantr...@mirthil.org] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 24 June, 2015 17:40 > > > > > To: john.frank...@outlook.com > > > > > Subject: Re: gnome-3.16.x without systemd > > > > > > > > > > I came across your post by chance. To answer your question, it is > > > > > indeed possible for GNOME 3.16 to work without systemd. > > > > > I have actually been maintaining a patchset that reintegrates support > > > > > for Session Tracking and Power Management. > > > > > A recent version of the most directly related files can be found > > > > > here: https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-2485 > > > > > I have a newer version but I'm not quite ready to share it. > > > > > If you let me know what operating system you use, I may to be able to > > > > > help you expedite matters. > > > > > In fact, if you use Gentoo or Funtoo Linux you can be using GNOME > > > > > 3.16 without systemd as fast as you can compile it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the positive feedback. > > > > > > > > I'm using the 64-bit version of tinycorelinux on which I have > > > > gnome-3.10.x working without problems. > > > > > > > > I've compiled everything for gnome-3.16.x, but cannot post the various > > > > extensions (packages) > > > > to the tinycorelinux repo as gnome-session will not run. > > > > As posted, gnome-shell fails to register with gnome-session, but > > > > without any error messages to go on, I'm unable to fix things. > > > > I had a quick look at the site you mention, but I don't see any patches > > > > that stand out as being likely to fix my problem? > > > > > > > I am not actually familiar with tinycorenetwork but what I do know is > > > that GNOME 3.16 should actually work as-is > > > (although with reduced features), if you don't use GDM (as in 3.16 > > > ConsoleKit support was removed) > > > and if you force clutter to use the X11 backend (as the other backends > > > require systemd, as far as I can tell). > > > > > > My patchset is further down on that page under the attachment section. > > > Here's a direct link: > > > http://files.mirthil.org/dantrell-portage-overlays.tar.xz (mind, this > > > will only stay live for a while longer). > > > You will mostly be interested in any package that applies a > > > *restore-deprecated-code.patch file > > > but you will also want to look at what configure options are being passed > > > regarding consolekit and systemd, > > > especially if you intend to use GDM. Only a few packages not in that > > > attachment are not very relevant to your purposes. > > > > > > You wouldn't by chance be using ConsoleKit2 (any version greater than > > > 0.4.6)? > > > Because when I tested GNOME 3.16 against that, I believe things went > > > similarly haywire. > > > Also, if you manage to things working but find that native applications > > > don't launch/work, > > > double check that clutter is using an appropriate backend as I mentioned > > > earlier. > > > > > > Thanks - to answer some of your questions: > > > > 1. I don't know what backend clutter is using, but I don't get any clutter > > errors and using CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 doesn't change anything. > > > > 2. I'm not using gdm. > > > > 3. I've tried with both consolekit-0.4.6 and consolekit2 and neither give > > any error messages. > > > > I already reverted the consolekit changes to gnome-shell-3.16 and applied > > your revert patch to gnome-settings-daemon, > > but unfortunately this did > not help. > > > > In general I compiled the various packages against upower-0.99.2 except > > where they would not (telepathy-mission-control) > > and against consolekit. > I don't see any particular configure switches in > > your tarball that I've missed. > > I have not compiled gnome-bluetooth-3.16 as the version of udev in > > tinycorelinux is too old for this, > > but other than that everything I know of is present. > > > > I'm starting gnome-session with a wrapper script: > > > > ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session2 > > --autostart=/usr/local/etc/xdg/autostart --debug > > > > ..which gives the attached output - as you can see there's nothing to > > indicate why gnome-shell fails to register > > and I'm unable to get any debug output from gnome-shell. > > > > It's possible I might be missing a runtime dep as opposed to having a > > consolekit problem, > > but without error messages it's impossible to tell. > > > I took another at things, including the logs you provided and I think that > your problems have nothing > to do with any patches (missing or otherwise). Since you are not using GDM I > think ConsoleKit is not the problem. > In fact, if things don't work without the patches (yours or mine), it won't > work with them. > > Without actually getting tinycorelinux myself and retracing your efforts, my > best guess is that you are probably > correct in thinking that you forgot a dependency or built something against > an incorrect one. > The only thing that comes to mind is gobject-introspection, dbus and udev (in > that order). > > Also, while I don't think your wrapper script is suspect, in Gentoo/Funtoo, > we use the following .xinitrc: > > # Fix Missing Applications in Gnome > export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- > > # Properly Launch the Desired X Session > exec ck-launch-session gnome-session > Thanks - I'm using gobject-introspection-1.44.0, dbus-1.18.6 and udev-174 - udev is in the tinycorelinux base, so I cannot change that.
I'm reasonably sure I haven't missed compiling against gobject-introspection and/or dbus - what makes you think that I might have? As mentioned, the only app that complains about udev-174 is gnome-bluetooth, so I haven't compiled against that. I was thinking it was more likely that I'd missed a runtime dep, but what? A couple of points on your patches: patch -Np1 -i ../gnome-control-center-3.16.2-restore-deprecated-code.patch patching file config.h.in patching file configure patching file configure.ac Hunk #1 succeeded at 340 (offset -99 lines). Hunk #2 FAILED at 649. 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.ac.rej patching file panels/power/cc-power-panel.c patch -Np1 -i ../telepathy-mission-control-5.16.3-restore-deprecated-code.patch ... Make ... cd . && /bin/bash /usr/src/telepathy-mission-control-5.16.3/build-aux/missing automake-1.13 --gnu configure.ac:20: warning: The 'AM_PROG_MKDIR_P' macro is deprecated, and its use is discouraged. configure.ac:20: You should use the Autoconf-provided 'AC_PROG_MKDIR_P' macro instead, configure.ac:20: and use '$(MKDIR_P)' instead of '$(mkdir_p)'in your Makefile.am files. configure.ac:15: error: required file 'build-aux/compile' not found configure.ac:15: 'automake --add-missing' can install 'compile' mission-control-plugins/Makefile.am:1: warning: 'INCLUDES' is the old name for 'AM_CPPFLAGS' (or '*_CPPFLAGS') plugins/Makefile.am:1: warning: 'INCLUDES' is the old name for 'AM_CPPFLAGS' (or '*_CPPFLAGS') src/Makefile.am:1: warning: 'INCLUDES' is the old name for 'AM_CPPFLAGS' (or '*_CPPFLAGS') src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/signals-marshal.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled automake-1.13: warning: possible forward-incompatibility. automake-1.13: At least a source file is in a subdirectory, but the 'subdir-objects' automake-1.13: automake option hasn't been enabled. For now, the corresponding output automake-1.13: object file(s) will be placed in the top-level directory. However, automake-1.13: this behaviour will change in future Automake versions: they will automake-1.13: unconditionally cause object files to be placed in the same subdirectory automake-1.13: of the corresponding sources. automake-1.13: You are advised to start using 'subdir-objects' option throughout your automake-1.13: project, to avoid future incompatibilities. src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/svc-Account_Interface_Conditions.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/svc-Account_Interface_External_Password_Storage.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/svc-Account_Interface_Hidden.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/svc-Account_Manager_Interface_Hidden.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled src/Makefile.am:55: warning: source file '_gen/svc-dispatcher.c' is in a subdirectory, src/Makefile.am:55: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled tests/Makefile.am:1: warning: 'INCLUDES' is the old name for 'AM_CPPFLAGS' (or '*_CPPFLAGS') tests/twisted/Makefile.am:228: warning: 'INCLUDES' is the old name for 'AM_CPPFLAGS' (or '*_CPPFLAGS') Makefile:445: recipe for target 'Makefile.in' failed make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 Regards John _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
