On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:38:13 +0200 Denis wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 22:02:30 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote:
> > Would a few of you like to form a committee to choose one?  I think
> > that would be useful.  You could have discussions on another list
> > specifically for this.

i mentioned this before; but i can not imagine what existing mailing list that
could be, other than this one; and its scope is rather narrow and short-lived
to deserve a new dedicated mailing list


On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 21:42:56 -0400 Richard wrote:
>   > all of them are under review - you could definitely help if you like - 
> this
>   > wiki is tracking the progress:
> 
> The GNU Project will have to study each one of these, one by one --
> and each one will take time.

this is a most interesting new statement - are you suggesting that GNU should
have a formal project dedicated to this? - bearing in mind that no one who is
currently interested in addressing these is a member of any GNU project, that
statement seems like a stretch of the imagination, albeit an interesting one

the reason that is interesting, is because it is not obvious why the GNU
project would have any interest in such a project, other than to support the
FSDG - currently, these third-party repos are squarely in the domain of the FSDG
work-group; because only the FSDG has any criteria about these - the FSD
criteria only relates to the source code of the client applications, all of
which are libre; and i dont believe that it was ever within the scope of the
GNU project standards or any FSF campaign

the FSDG work-group is not a GNU project; so these TPPMs are not otherwise
relevant to any GNU or FSF project - the FSDG is a formal project of the FSF
licensing office; but the work-group is not - it has always been
community-based - though donald effectively made it a volunteer group of the
FSDG project, it has no formal standing and no real efficacy beyond evaluating
prospective distros

if the FSDG work-group were formal project of the FSF licensing office or GNU;
that would go a long way toward the sort of reform i have been seeking - if it
is not, then any work done has little chance of being effective

if a new GNU project were created to address these, that would be a fine way to
handle this _one_ FSDG concern; but it would still leave all other FSDG concerns
hanging un-addressable

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