2007-10-16, 14:00(-07), mike3: > On Oct 14, 8:06 pm, Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, mike3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> belched >> out: > <snip> >> > Well the thing I was asking more about was making a system >> > that would be "real Unix" in the sense that it would be *capable >> > of passing* such evaluations -- so it would be "real Unix" in all >> > but the legal sense (ie. what you can market it as) (unless of >> > course all the money needed to get certification was paid.). >> >> I *think* that STREAMS would need to be added in order to pass the >> official tests. That might no longer be true, but I think it was, at >> one time... >> > > Well, I could not check the recent SUS (Single UNIX Specification), > since to get a copy would cost $250 (!). I don't have that kind of > free > money on hand yet to blow on it. [...]
??? SUSv3 can be freely browsed from http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/toc.htm and downloaded from http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/download And you can even download a debian package with the full HTML doc for both susv2 and susv3 from any debian mirror. But it's true the CDROM version would cost $250 for some reason (?!). > >> >> The biggest *change,* as far as I was last aware, that would be needed >> >> would be to introduce the STREAMS abstraction, which both BSD and >> >> Linux folk have generally eshewed. >> >> > What was so bad about it, anyway, that they didn't like it? >> >> There was an implementation: >> <http://www.gcom.com/linux/lis/> See also Fast-STREAMS (its replacement) from the openss7 project and there also exist commercial versions both in user and kernel space. [...] > Hmm. Could this mean then that perhaps it is _better_ that the > Free systems are not "real Unix" in the sense of 100% compliance > with the SUS? Then what is all this stuff about "Real Unix = power", > anyway? STREAMS is optional in SUS including for systems claiming XSI (X/Open System Interface). See http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/help/codes.html#XSR http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap02.html#tag_02_01_04 -- Stéphane _______________________________________________ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
