On Tuesday, 7 March 2000, Dirk Lattermann writes:

Hi Dirk,

Thanks very much for the discription of your findings.  You found some
bugs and (still) some real ugly slurs.  The exact placment (of the edges)
esp.  at line-break hasn't been revised yet.  I hope we can redo this some
time soon.

> I must say I am really in awe on lily's recent beautiful drawing
> of slurs and ties.  This is a great improvement!  However, as you

Thanks, we think so too.  There's still room for improvement, but
we'll probably stick with this implementation for now.

> (esp. Jan, I think) told us to look for flaws in the slur drawing,
> I can provide some (but I need to be picky sometimes ;-) )

Yes, I can see.  But I feel your pickyness is `right'.

> 1. There are bar numbers in the cello part in every bar that I didn't
>    intend.

This is fixed in .30

> 2. There dynamic markings of the cello part are set in roman (maybe
>    because of pizz. and arco in roman?)

Noted.

> 3. Let's start with slurs: look at bars 31 and 32 (switching a line).
>    The slurs are IMO too steep, the tie is ok. Maybe the upper slur 
>    should start at the stem end, not at the head here?

Yes.  This needs to be revised.

> 4. Bar 41/42, violins: the ties should be the same direction, pref.
>    down in bar 42.

Noted.

> 5. Bar 49, 50, violin 2: the end points of the two slurs look a bit 
>    too far away from the start and end notes (though I'm not really
>    sure).

This is a difficult one, I agree.  I'm not certain what to do here,
but it looks not too good.

> 6. (Here I am being _very_ picky:) Bar 55, viol. 1, the ends of the
>    slur are too steep (esp. the start)

Similar to 5, but uglier.

> 7. This is a bug: there's a colon in the middle of the two harmonium
>    staves

Noted.

> 8. bars 62/63, picky again: a steep tie, compared to the following
>    slur (the slur looks very nice!)
> 
> 9. bars 67 ff, harmonium lower staff: the slurs end a tiny bit too late
>    (yes, picky again.)

To be revised.

> 10. bars 70, 71 harmonium: the placement of the slur in bar 70 compared
>     to the tie in bar 71 is just great! My heart is full of joy about this!

:-)

> 11. bars 73, 74, 75, violin 2: the slurs bended upwards are too steep,
>     in 74, 75, they should start at the end of the stems. I know this
>     is all said more easily than done, I'm sorry...

Ok.

> 12. bars 82 to 84 and 88: the ties of upper harmonium should all bend down.

Noted.

> 13. bars 85 and 87, viol. 2: the slurs look a bit shifted to the right.
> 
> 14. in bar 87, viol 2 it looks a bit too far away from the notes (hard one, 
>     I guess)

Tbr.

> 15. bar 89, harmonium, the ties coming from the previous line look strangely
>     asymmetric.
> 
> 16. bar 92, lower harmonium, the tie should bend downwards.

Yes, seen this before (broken ties).

> 17. bar 93, lower harmonium, the tie is curved too strongly.

I don't see this.

> 18. the closing repeat sign matching 7.
> 
> Now, I really have to say again that most of the slurs and ties really
> look great and better than ever! I didn't mention the placement of ties
> between too chords, which are now evenly distributed between bending
> up and down! I was looking forward to this from the first time
> I used lily!

Thanks again.

> I am really thankful for this, this is well done.
> Please tell me if you have problems in reproducing the effects I described
> above using the attached files.

Apart from already fixed and your .17 (ah, 17. might be fixed in pl.31!)
I think I see what you see.

Thanks for the report.

Greetings,
Jan.

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