David, 
Thanks, using the “l” got the " -rwxr-xr-x” characters.

> On Feb 10, 2022, at 15:33, David H <hell...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> Looks like you typed a "1" (one) instead of an 'l' (ell) as the option to the 
> ls command which explains the difference in output - rerun with the ls -l and 
> you'll get the full response.
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 07:41, <smad...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:smad...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> John, again thanks.  Yes, the obvious is not obvious to me as I am a user and 
> much beyond that I am lost, especially with doing terminal commands. I love 
> using GC and it works great until MAC or sometimes GC updates  and there are 
> problems which I try to find solutions to in the Archives.  But when I don’t, 
> I ask for help but again am not that coding or terminal savvy.  I do try 
> though and appreciate all the help and patience you all provide.
> 
> I ran the “sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app” command and the 
> check which is below and seems to be correct.
> 
> Last login: Thu Feb 10 12:58:28 on ttys000
> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app
> Password:
> dwa1@dwa1 ~ %  xcode-select -p
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % 
> 
> I then ran “export 
> PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH” which 
> resulted in the “dquote>” prompt.  Here again, I am not sure if I am supposed 
> to substitute something for $PATH or not or if that is the command.  At the 
> “dquote>” prompt, I typed in “gnc-fq-update” which just went to the “dquote>” 
> prompt again without updating FQ.  Is gnc-fq-update  the command or am I 
> supposed to type something in front of gnc-fq-update?
> 
> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % export 
> PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH"
> dquote> gnc-fq-update
> dquote>  
> 
> In an earlier e-mail you stated:
> 
>  /usr/bin is right where you'd expect it, but you can't see it with Finder, 
> only from the terminal. For example you can type
>   ls -l /usr/bin/make
> and if it's there get back something like
>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  167088 Dec  7 15:39 /usr/bin/make*
> 
> When I ran”ls -1 /user/bin/make” and “ls -1 /user/bin/xcrun” I got back “root 
> wheel 167072 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/make” and “root wheel 166544 Jan 22 00:42 
> /usr/bin/xcrun”  From that I thought I had “make” and “xcrun” but neither of 
> the responses had the “-rwxr-xr-x” before the “1 root—-“ as in your result.  
> Since I am missing  the “-rwxr-xr-x”, does that mean I don’t have “make” and 
> “xcrun” installed?
> 
> Again, I appreciate your help and patience and am sorry it is taking so long 
> to understand this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2022, at 12:43, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us 
> > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
> > 
> > Dennis,
> > 
> > I guess you missed the line "making the obvious substitution" right after 
> > the Xcode-select line, or the substitution isn't that obvious. Since you 
> > did install it as Xcode.app in /Applications, you'd say
> >  sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app
> > You can check that it worked with 
> >  xcode-select -p
> > which should print 
> >  /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer
> > 
> > No, /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools exists only if you've installed 
> > command line tools by running
> >  sudo xcode-select --install
> > which you bailed out of because of the long download time. 
> > 
> > I dug into /usr/bin/make a bit. It's not make, so it must be an xcrun 
> > launcher, which if your Xcode-select path is pointed at the uninstalled 
> > command line tools folder would explain the error messages and of course 
> > it's finding /usr/bin/make first. I should have recognized that and told you
> > export PATH=“/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin:$PATH"
> > instead. Of course it wouldn't have mattered because of the /Path/to/ 
> > substitution misunderstanding.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> > 
> > 
> >> On Feb 10, 2022, at 10:51 AM, smad...@hotmail.com 
> >> <mailto:smad...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> John,  I ran the “ls -l /usr/bin/make” command for “make” and “xcrun” and 
> >> got the following which I guess says I have both “make” and “xcrun”.
> >> 
> >> Last login: Thu Feb 10 07:21:15 on console 
> >> 
> >> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % -rwxr-xr-x 1 dwa1@dwa1 ~ % -rwxr-xr-x 1 dwa1@dwa1 ~ % 
> >> 
> >> ls -l /usr/bin/make
> >> root wheel 167072 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/make 
> >> 
> >> ls -l /usr/bin/xcrun
> >> root wheel 166544 Jan 22 00:42 /usr/bin/xcrun 
> >> 
> >> One of the errors at the end of a previous terminal output for 
> >> “/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check” was: 
> >> 
> >> xcrun: error: invalid active developer path 
> >> (/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools ), missing xcrun at: 
> >> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun 
> >> 
> >> In Finder, I went to /Library/Developer but there was no “Command Line 
> >> Tools folder.  I know you said I wouldn’t see /usr/bin with Finder, but 
> >> shouldn’t there at least be a Command Line Tools folder under Developer?
> >> 
> >> Regarding installation.  When I installed Xcode, I let it install where it 
> >> wanted to (Applications) without changing the name.  I did what you 
> >> suggested and ran “sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app” anyway with 
> >> the following results:
> >> 
> >> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app Password:
> >> xcode-select: error: invalid argument 'Xcode.app'
> >> Usage: xcode-select [options] 
> >> 
> >> Print or change the path to the active developer directory. This directory 
> >> controls which tools are used for the Xcode command line tools (for 
> >> example, xcodebuild) as well as the BSD development commands (such as cc 
> >> and make). 
> >> 
> >> Options:
> >> -h, --help
> >> -p, --print-path
> >> -s <path>, --switch <path> --install 
> >> 
> >> developer tools -v, --version -r, --reset 
> >> 
> >> dwa1@dwa1 ~ % 
> >> 
> >> print this help message and exit
> >> print the path of the active developer directory set the path for the 
> >> active developer directory open a dialog for installation of the command 
> >> line 
> >> 
> >> print the xcode-select version
> >> reset to the default command line tools path 
> >> 
> >> I then tried to run “sudo xcode-select -p —print-path Xcode.app” and got 
> >> the same “error: invalid argument ‘Xcode.app’
> >> 
> >> I then ran “export 
> >> PATH=“$PATH:/Path/to/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin" and got a 
> >> “dquote>” prompt.  I then typed in “gnc-fq-update”, “sudo gnc-fq-update’, 
> >> “run gnc-fq-update” and the full path 
> >> “/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check” 
> >> sequentially, all with the same result, it just reverted to the “dquote>” 
> >> prompt.  So apparently, I am not doing this correctly.  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 21:51, john <jra...@ceridwen.us 
> >>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Your dump looks pretty much llke a rerun of the same problem except that 
> >>> now you also have an SSL certificate problem.
> >>> 
> >>> /usr/bin is right where you'd expect it, but you can't see it with 
> >>> Finder, only from the terminal. For example you can type
> >>>   ls -l /usr/bin/make
> >>> and if it's there get back something like
> >>>   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  167088 Dec  7 15:39 /usr/bin/make*
> >>> 
> >>> Did you install Xcode in /Applications without messing with the name? If 
> >>> not you might try
> >>>  sudo xcode-select -s /Path/to Xcode.app
> >>> making the obvious substitution. 
> >>> Or, since something seems confused, maybe run that even if you *did* 
> >>> install it in /Applications.
> >>> 
> >>> Since make is in the Xcode bundle you might be able to work around the 
> >>> problem for Finance::Quote with 
> >>>  export PATH="$PATH:/Path/to/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin"
> >>> and then running gnc-fq-update again.
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John Ralls
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 8:05 PM, dennis adams <smad...@hotmail.com 
> >>>> <mailto:smad...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> John, thanks for the response.  I believe I have the full XCode (32GB 
> >>>> worth) but don’t know for sure since I don’t use it.  I only have it 
> >>>> because of GC.  I hadn’t opened it but did after your response and told 
> >>>> it to install the “additional components”.  After that, I ran the 
> >>>> “gnc-fq-update” command again and got the “You need to install the 
> >>>> following Perl modules: Finance::Quote” result when I ran a check, like 
> >>>> before.  Terminal info is attached.  (Note: I changed the GC app name 
> >>>> from Gnucash 4.8.app to just Gnucash.app so you will see that change in 
> >>>> the sudo command line). 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You stated that on your mac, “xcrun” and “make”are in the /usr/bin.  Not 
> >>>> sure where that is but I right clicked the xCode app and then clicked 
> >>>> show contents.  With this following path: 
> >>>> xCode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin   I did find “make” but did not 
> >>>> find “xcrun”.  Is that the correct location where they should be?  There 
> >>>> are a lot of other xc—— commands but no “xcrun”
> >>>> 
> >>>> You stated I could install command-line tools by running  “xcode-select 
> >>>> —install”.  Even though I think I have the full xCode with 32.12 GB, I 
> >>>> went ahead and ran the command.  Since I am on slow DSL (2.87Mbps) it 
> >>>> showed 215 hours remaining to download so I stopped it.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Any other thoughts or ways to get “xcrun”?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 18:54, john <jra...@ceridwen.us 
> >>>>> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Feb 9, 2022, at 1:36 PM, dennis adams <smad...@hotmail.com 
> >>>>>> <mailto:smad...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Upgraded to Monterey (V12.2) and got black screen for GC.  Read 
> >>>>>> mailing list and saw  where I needed to get GC 4.8 which I did.  
> >>>>>> Installed 4.8 and GC came up and displayed correctly but am now unable 
> >>>>>> to get stock quotes.  The Price Database Get Quotes button is greyed 
> >>>>>> out.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Went to Applications, GC 4.8, Contents, Resources, bin and clicked on 
> >>>>>> gnc-fq-check which said:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> “Last login: Wed Feb 9 13:18:07 on ttys000
> >>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash\ 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check ; 
> >>>>>> exit; dwa1@dwa1 ~ % /Applications/Gnucash\ 
> >>>>>> 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq-check
> >>>>>> ; exit;
> >>>>>> You need to install the following Perl modules: Finance::Quote
> >>>>>> Use your system's package manager to install them, or run 
> >>>>>> 'gnc-fq-update' as root.
> >>>>>> missing-lib
> >>>>>> Saving session...
> >>>>>> ...copying shared history...
> >>>>>> ...saving history...truncating history files... ...completed.
> >>>>>> [Process completed] “
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I had old version of XCode which didn’t work with Monterey so updated 
> >>>>>> to version 13.2.1 and then ran “sudo /Applications/Gnucash\ 
> >>>>>> 4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gnc-fq- update”.  Terminal info from 
> >>>>>> that run is attached, but basically it didn’t work since when I ran 
> >>>>>> the gnc-fq-check again, I got the same message as above.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I’m well out of my depth with all this and not sure where to go from 
> >>>>>> here.  The Terminal information does not really make sense to me but 
> >>>>>> there were several statements like “missing xcrun at: 
> >>>>>> /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/usr/bin/xcrun “  and “the 
> >>>>>> following files are missing in your kit: .travis.yml “ as well as 
> >>>>>> others
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It would seem that if I had all the FQ commands in 
> >>>>>> /Applications/Gnucash\4.8.app/Contents/Resources/bin/ xxx then I have 
> >>>>>> FQ installed but the check says no.  Don’t know where to go from here. 
> >>>>>>  Any help would be appreciated.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Most of the modules failed to install and it looks like it was because 
> >>>>> there was no `make` either on the path or in the command-line tools 
> >>>>> directory. You could install command-line tools by running 
> >>>>> xcode-select --install
> >>>>> but that should be superfluous if you've installed the full Xcode. 
> >>>>> Having installed it have you run it so that it can install it's 
> >>>>> "additional components"? On my mac xcrun and make are in /usr/bin.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> John Ralls
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> <Update4 FQ 2-9-22.pdf>
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> 
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