I trust you are aware that GnuDIP is is not a commercial product? It is
OpenSource and FREE.

One company has asked me to install GnuDIP for use by their customers
and are PAYING ME to make changes for them.

In fact, to make GnuDIP more useful to that client I have in fact added
a capability for "remote maintenance", so that they do not have to use
"Self Registration". That company has been generous and forward thinking
enough to allow me to include this in the OpenSource version of GnuDIP.

Are you offering me money?

Are you offering to help?

Aren't you the guy who sent me several E-mails a day for several days
while you ere trying to install GnuDIP? Didn't you even ask me to LOG ON
TO YOUR SYSTEM to do it for you?

Most of the work involved in setting up GnuDIP has nothing to do with
GnuDIP. It is about BIND, Sandmail, MySQL, syslog. If you know of
software that sets up BIND autmatically, what is it?

There are many sites I know of where no one had any trouble. Or if they
did, they contributed a solution.

If you don't want to use GnuDIP, great! Get off this mailing list. Do
you at least know how to do that?

Endre Palfi wrote:
> 
> Hi. I have given some tought to your project over the past months and I
> never liked that self-registration idea. It seems like you are trying to
> provide the technology and the retailing environment and are not doing
> either one particularly well. I think you would have a good and usefull
> product if it worked, but I remember from experience that installation was
> very cumbersome. Production environments (ISPs and ASPs) only use products
> that provide snappy flawless installation and equally snappy archiving and
> restoration.
> 
> The correct way of doing what you do is to remove the self-registration
> features altogether and provide some simple provisioning scripts to
> manipulate the database. Once you have that, package it properly with
> installation scripts, provisioning script documentation and take it to ISPs
> and ASPs and have them integrate it into their service networks as they see
> fit. Usually ISPs and ASPs already have the end-user interfaces and they
> want to expand it by adding more products and services to it. Since 99% of
> the value in what you do is in the DynIP service everything else is just
> distraction. Kind of like having a kiosk on the street for selling light
> bulbs. You make light-bulbs. Package it the way other light bulb companies
> package their products and put them where the other light bulbs are so that
> people can buy it and you can receive the product.
> 
> When you have that, promote is as hard as you can to generate sales and
> recover expenses so that you can move on to developing the next technology
> or refining what you have "profitably".
> 
> You will have a lot more success with your product that way.
> 
> Creighton MacDonnell wrote:
> 
> > Last night it appears that my installation of GnuDIP was used to send a
> > large number of E-mails to a victim.
> >
> > While those GnuDIP web pages that can only be entered through the login
> > page cannot be anonymously abused. it is now clear that the self
> > registration page can be. A program can "GET" and "POST" that page
> > repeatedly to send an E-mail bombardment to a third party. The
> > bombardment will seem to come from the GnuDIP site.
> >
> > I have disabled self registration on my site.
> >
> > I will try to find a way to make sure that a human being is using the
> > page. Suggestions are welcome.
> >
> > Sorry about this.
> >
> > --
> > Creighton MacDonnell
> > http://macdonnell.ca/
> >
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