Nice analysis Bastian! I've attached the SVG file of my version, if anyone wants to improve/build upon it.
Cheers, Marcel On 17.05.2018 16:11, Nils Gillmann wrote: > Hi Bastian, > > thanks for this refreshing long Email, I hope to reply to the > logo part at some point. The image is very low quality, I can > make out what it's about, but maybe to discuss something better > (not so lowres) would it better. > > hyazin...@emailn.de transcribed 13K bytes: >> Hello, >> > [I'm skipping the logo work Great work, but it's not what I can > comment on right now. Love the initiative and analysis.] > >> Feedback regarding the website: The website has to get more to the >> point, and the design has to support that by how it divides spaces >> and shapes them with colors, images, and writings. If you want to >> place 5 bullet points, you better take the whole white space, and >> devide it into 5 parts, each designed differently custom made, >> individual and tasty just for that one bullet point they are >> supposed to introduce. Additionally, you want to keep up interest >> of the audience through the whole site, instead of welcoming them >> with a structure, saying that 67% of the website is not of interest >> for them and that they're better off with focusing their attention >> to this one third, which is targeted specifically to them. The >> content, the bullet points, have to be in the center of attention, >> not a meta structure sorting the audience into 3 different groups. >> Of course, certain aspects of the GNUnet are more attractive to a >> certain group than others, but there are ways to generalize those >> points to such a degree, that they're also better accessible to >> other groups. At least to such a degree that they understand the >> value of those points. A very good reference for all of this is >> this website: https://www.zeronet.io/en The only problem with that >> is that it's kind of like a visiting card. Another reference, which >> is good, is this website: https://freifunk.net/en/ Additionally, >> what the second website makes better than the first reference, is >> that it's not just a visiting card. It strongly interacts with the >> audience. It gives impulse to click on videos, zoom into maps >> dynamically displaying what's going on in the free wireless network >> that this project Freifunk is all about. > We are aiming for summer of 2019 to finish the new website (deadline > for server related work). > What's currently missing is people who are working on the code for the > new website. we started something (in www.git) based on the GNU Taler > website code as per internal (or was it public?) discussion. > The website is Django based, and if it's not visible public in some > thread or bugticket I could commit what we intend to make the website > look like. None of us, to my knowledge, are webdesigners, so at best > we'd get an improvement over Drupal7 - afterwards the plan was to > let someone work on it with Webdesign skills. > Originally I wanted to take on finishing the code, but I'm occupied > elsewhere. > To the point, https://gnunet.org/git/www.git/ is what we have, and the > remote to base it on is g...@git.taler.net:www.git respectively the URL > for anon access. > >> One last word to the topic 'website text': 'ethical internet' ? Good >> intentions, but too vague. At the bottom GNUnet has 2 values: >> empathy and emancipation - it embodies empathy to help other people, >> and it embodies emancipation by facilitating freedom/liberty, it >> embodies emancipation to help other people living their lives in >> freedom. If values are put into the center of attention, the best >> thing one can do to be understood and help the values as such is >> naming them explicitely and concretely. I think it's a very good >> idea to mention the values of the GNUnet, because it helps people >> without technical understanding to understand what drives the >> GNUnet. But then at least additionally some technical key features, >> bullet points, should be dropped: Things like 'distributed', >> 'anonymous P2P', 'Filesharing', 'creating a anonymous and >> distributed replacement for the old insecure Internet' - it's just >> something early adopters expect to be faced with, are looking for, >> and get very attentive and attracted to. It's okay, if these drops >> are pretty bold and ambitious, because they make clear what the >> project strives for to be or become, and that attracts people who >> want the same, building up momentum into the desired direction of >> the project. >> >> >> Greetings, >> Bastian Schmidt > > Thanks, > N. > >> Le ven. 26 janv. 2018 à 1:07, amirouche <address@hidden> a écrit : >> >> Héllo, >> >> >> I got into creating a new logo for gnunet and work on the new gnunet >> website. >> >> >> I did not study a lot the current website and based the mockup on what >> is in >> >> the www.git repository @ https://gnunet.org/git/www.git/ >> >> My first impression is that the learning curve is rather steep, because >> it's start in the first paragraph with various acronyms that I don't know >> myself. >> >> >> The introduction goes into deteails of what and how Internet is broken. >> Starting up with the Internet is broken is not very positive and most likely >> >> people coming to the website already know that. >> >> We should first deliver a short explanation of the guiding principles of >> the gnunet stack (or framework?). I think about: ethical, energy efficient, >> secure >> >> and anonymous. Maybe that must be the headline. Maybe: >> >> ethical Internet >> >> is enough. >> >> Let's be creative, the current headline seems like a buzz word bingo >> parade: >> >> Decentralized, Secure, Privacy-preserving, Distributed Application >> Framework >> >> >> ipfs use the following: >> >> IPFS is the distributed web. >> >> That is a bit strong and surf on the _web_ frenzy. A misleading >> statement. >> >> Serving static files over the network is an old trick. >> >> I think we should focus on delivring a short explanation for three kinds >> of >> >> potentially interested users. >> >> - end users: What are gnunet-based applications? What are the advantages >> of using gnunet compared to other approaches in particular the blockchain, >> ipfs and bittorrent (e.g. gnunet offers the possibility to stay anonymous >> which avoids the need to use vpn (which is not really anonymous) and that >> >> gnunet offers better performance than tor (which has known issues)). >> >> AFAIK this section will be empty without gnunet-gtk and gnu taler. >> >> - developpers: What are the advantages of using gnunet? What are the >> distinctive features of gnunet? What are the available bindings? What is >> their status? Explain in layman terms that most the regular network stack is >> replaced >> >> by a secure version. Explai from top to bottom (I think it's easier >> >> to understand but I am just a webdev) what are the different services. >> >> >> - researcher: explain that gnunet is based on several research papers and >> >> that it was published in various places, link to the bibliography. >> >> How someone should cite gnunet if they use it in their work? bibtex? >> >> I replaced the term 'stack' with 'framework' in the headline, is it ok? >> >> >> logos and mockup at https://imgur.com/a/ZOjNU >> >> I attached the svg source. >> >> WDYT? >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GNUnet-developers mailing list >> GNUnet-developers@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnunet-developers > _______________________________________________ > GNUnet-developers mailing list > GNUnet-developers@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnunet-developers
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