On 2005-08-12 02:56:53 +0700 Stefan Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I am against war, so I am not going to comment this either. I will say
only that I have the same impression: the community is closed. Whether
it is good or bad depends on your point of view. I think it is not
very
good.
Idea can be attractor only for wise. There are not so many we would
consider wise at this time, but there are many that would learn. What
we
can do is to observe what successful players are doing for attracting
people and copy them. We have to offer what others want, not what we
want them to want. Once we have them, then we can teach them 'the
idea'
behind GNUstep ... if they would not get it first...
Regards,
Stefan Urbanek
My comments about *.gnustep.org and trying to avoid the work of
restructureing www.gnustep.org were aimed at gaining more contributors
(MJ Ray's concern) and making the gnustep site have a more active, one
stop shop for all your gnustep needs sort of appearance, a la ubuntu
(Stefan's concern). The additional contributors that would be served
by apps.gnustep.org and planet.gnustep.org are the app developers.
Some of whom are already contributing by writing blogs, and have put
some information in the app database in the past. But these resources
aren't centralized at the gnustep.org site. I think those sub-sites,
and a unified look, by at least using the same header, with links to
all sub-sites, as mentioned above would help out with this.
The gnustep.org site itself isn't very accessable to Joe random web
surfer, as its mostly concerned with presenting GNUstep as a
development framework, not something for the end user. While new
screenshots would be nice, I think having those sub-sites, and links
to them from gnustep.org (in the header, as mentioned?), would allow
the main site to maintain its narrow focus more comfortably. I thought
there was some consensus on the list in the past that GNUstep was a
development environment, and that more end user oriented things like
desktop environments and apps should be left to other parties: Etoile,
SuaveOS, Backbone, app developer community, etc.
As, to the forum/mailing list gateway. At first I thought links to
specific lists within the gmane site could help. But, I'm not sure if
you can post form gmane. I think some variety of mailing list/web
gateway, wether links to specific lists int an existing one, or
something running on the gnustep site would be helpful too.
To sum up ...
1) gain more contributers to the gnustep.org web presence
2) gnustep gets a more active, accessable appearance
3) doesn't require lots of volunteer time to resturcture the existing
site (which could use some better screenshots)
Rob
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