On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 19:28 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Stefan Urbanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Suggestion to get more voulenteers? Switch to a site editing method with > > no obstacles. You need contents maintainers, not web designers. > > Therefore you need someone who can press 'edit' button and edit plain > > text, not someone who has to know CVS. And yes, CVS is very great barier > > for editors. > > Why? I've met this reasoning before and about as few people will > learn a web editing interface as will learn CVS, in my experience. > > CVS is not very hard. It's one command on a menu (Tools > Version > Control) in Emacs to save with a comment, or make a diff for > emailing to webmasters. Is this really a "very great barrier"? > At least CVS is common across many free software projects and > most newer version control generally has a similar workflow, > so people can gain transferable skills by working on gnustep.org. >
You can stop at words "emacs" and "diff". Yes, it is very great barrier. You are programmer, therefore for you not. Same for CVS. > Please can all willing editors who find this too hard let us know. > Then we can try making it easier, or switch editing method. > Vicious circle... I say: we will not have editors until there will be easier way of editing. You say: we will not change editing way until there is going to be editor willing to edit with another tool... > > > >From another message from Stefan: > > > > [...] they have a kind of bridge between mailman and the forum [2], so > > > > every > > > > post to the ubuntu lists gets published at the forum as a standard > > > > message. > > > > Does GNUstep has any resources (machine, time,...) to set up such forum? > > > > > > Isn't that what gmane, google groups and others do already? We've > > > been around for a while, so are on these services, while youngsters > > > like ubuntu have to do it for themselves. > > No, it isn't. It is decetralised and distant to GNUstep. > > GNUstep development is pretty decentralised, you know? > It should not. > > [...] It is about bringing all stuf together and > > make it more accessible. It is not so obvious that one can search google > > groups for gnustep discussions. [...] > > That's because we deliberately link to GMANE at the moment instead, > so as not to duplicate, because they offer more of our lists and > a better interface. Do you think we got that wrong? > No, I only say, that having everything GNUstep development related under one roof is better. <snip> > > I am against war, so I am not going to comment this either. I will say > > only that I have the same impression: the community is closed. [...] > > The main things giving that impression are: > 1. the community is busy, on GNUstep and other things; > 2. a small number of nidjits say they think it is closed > and offer "solutions" which may not improve things. > How do you know that the solutions will not improve things? Yes, they may not. But you can only learn if you try it. <snip> Stefan -- http://stefan.agentfarms.net First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi _______________________________________________ Gnustep-webmasters mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnustep-webmasters
