EVERYTHING there is quite unusual, I presume!… Yours, R.M. On 4/7/23, V M <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the unusual end of the Goan community in Malawi under Hastings > Banda? > > VM > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2023, 20:47 Frederick Noronha, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> [image: roteiro1.jpeg] >> >> [image: roteiro2.jpeg] >> >> This is the* Roteiro* (roadmap) to the Goa Arhives, mentioned by Debra >> Nicholson (who has been working intensely on the Goan community on Malawi >> and the unusual end it came to (under President Hastings Banda). A >> specimen >> page too. >> Originally published in 1955, and then reproduced in a facsimile edition >> in 2009, priced Rs 230. Probably now out of print (not sure). Wish such >> texts could be shared as copylefted, digital editions, in the interests >> of >> building awareness about one of Asia's oldest archives. FN >> >> On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 at 03:06, Debra Nicholson >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Selma, perhaps you are already aware there is a printed guide in >>> Portuguese by P.S.S. Pissurlencar, found in situ at the Goa Archives >>> that >>> may or may not be helpful in locating archival materials you need. >>> >>> I looked at it when I was there at few years ago. When I returned home, >>> I >>> was able to borrow a copy of his book, Roteiro dos Arquivos da India >>> Portuguesa (Tipografia Rangel, 1955) through Interlibrary Loan at a >>> local >>> university library (US), and I copied it in the event I want to be more >>> prepared when/if I return to Goa for more research. But I suspect there >>> is >>> a lot more stored there (and not yet catalogued) than even these guides >>> suggest. >>> >>> When I was there pre-pandemic, the place was packed with people whom I >>> assumed were looking for land records. >>> >>> I’d also like to mention the library upstairs—the loveliest librarians >>> and an interesting collection. However, you can’t take photos of any >>> materials, you have to pay a nominal fee for duplication. >>> >>> As an aside: Perhaps you also are aware of the State Library in Panjim, >>> and the library at The Xavier Centre of Historical Research at Alto >>> Porvorim, both repositories of much historical documentation. >>> >>> Best wishes, Debra >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Debra Nicholson, MFA, MA >>> www.debranicholson.com >>> alternate email: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2023, at 9:31 AM, 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dear Fausto and everyone, thank you for your responses. I am sure as >>> with >>> most things in Goa, patience in key. If I can get hold of the books even >>> after a wait of one hour I will be a happy bunny. More than the dates, I >>> need the occupations which are stated on the parish baptismal >>> certificates. >>> >>> Yes, the records must be digitized. It is a priority and the government >>> must treat it as such. I understand there is indeed a goldmine of >>> records >>> in Goa, and if we had been clever it would have been a major research >>> centre. >>> >>> All best wishes, >>> Selma >>> >>> On Monday, 3 April 2023 at 10:47:09 BST, Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Selma, >>> >>> I have been going to Goa archives during every visit of mine since 2009. >>> I have never had a major issue in terms of going there and getting what >>> I >>> need. The only issue is the bureaucracy. In the past one could present >>> themselves at the entrance, leave belongings and enter the library. The >>> next step is to go to the person managing the books of the various >>> parishes. These books have remained the hand typed versions from the >>> 1970s. >>> No effort has been made to modernise this using Excel tools. The person >>> then fills out the slip which is duplicated. This then goes to another >>> person who enters it in another register retaining one slip and the >>> other >>> slip goes with the peon who then goes in to collect the book. This is >>> where >>> the whole process becomes tedious as the arrival of the book can take >>> upto >>> 30 minutes or even longer in some cases. There have been instances that >>> they come back thirty minutes later so say that the book has gone for >>> repairs which means you start all over again. Patience is very key. If >>> you >>> are conversant in Konkani then you are at an advantage. Please be >>> mindful >>> that the archives opens at 9.45 a.m and closes at 12.30 p.m. for lunch. >>> It >>> then reopens at 2.15 p.m. and closes at 4.15 p.m. Post Covid it appears >>> that they only allow a certain number of people at the time. I do wish >>> all >>> these records had been digitised. There are organisations in the US >>> willing >>> to undertake this task and even provide equipment to view this at Goa >>> archives but it probably is not in anyone's interest it is done. >>> >>> I hope that this answers some of your queries. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Fausto >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> on behalf of alan machado < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Sent:* 03 April 2023 08:52 >>> *To:* [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: Responder: [GRN] Query re Goa Archives >>> >>> Hi Selma >>> >>> Fausto in London and Michael Fonseca had been there last year. Not a >>> very >>> agreeable experience I understand >>> Good luck >>> Alan >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 1:03 PM sandra lobo <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sandra Ataíde Lobo >>> >>> [image: Outlook-s2umfi4c.png][image: Outlook-4ucy1ech.png] >>> >>> [image: Outlook-b2rsijr2.png] >>> >>> https://giepcip.wordpress.com/ >>> <https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgiepcip.wordpress.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C1a122e50a07c44205a4708db341872bc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638161051886412064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wXSansrFKso55300%2F4%2FA1Ep1xY2isbwvNkE06UfcT0k%3D&reserved=0> >>> >>> tmn. ++351 930690459 >>> Hi Selma, >>> >>> If rules haven't changed it is enough to present yourself there with an >>> identification. >>> Best wishes >>> Sandra >>> ------------------------------ >>> *De:* 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net >>> <[email protected]> >>> *Enviado:* 3 de abril de 2023 07:58 >>> *Para:* Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> >>> *Assunto:* [GRN] Query re Goa Archives >>> >>> Dear members, >>> >>> I shall be in Goa shortly hoping to access the Goa archives for two or >>> three birth/baptismal recordings. I have never been to the Goa archives. >>> There is nothing on their website which indicates what the process might >>> be >>> for a day pass/identification required, document handling and document >>> ordering nor a search engine to do such ordering. 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