I’m recovering, AR > On Jun 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Eugene Correia <[email protected]> wrote: > > The last I spoke with Janet, she told me he's recovering. If anything worse > had happened, she would inform. However, I will get in touch with her and > find out. Will post here. > > Eugene > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:39 AM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > 1. Are you sure Prof. Arthur Rubinoff is around? > 2. Goa's Who's Who of Freedom Fighters is a Goa Gazeteers Dept book, produced > when PP Shirodkar (Jr.) was Director of Archives (concurrently of Gazeteers). > A few copies are still available at the Goa Gazeteers Dept at Junta House, > Panjim -- at ridiculously low prices fixed in the 1980s. I have cited from > both volumes. > 3. See the select bibliography in my book. > Trust this helps. > Best, v > > On Mon, 19 Jun, 2023, 7:49 pm Eugene Correia, <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > The freedom/annexation/liberation issue with regards to Goa is complex. For > people who are interested in pro-Portuguese stance, there is at least one > good book by the former consul-general of the Portuguese in Bombay. Just this > morning I picked up Goa's Freedom Struggle by Dr. Juliao Menezes as I want to > check some things that Dr. Shusila Mendes mentioned in her piece in OHeraldo. > I also have the pamphlet, The Goa Action, by D. R. Nakekar, and would sought > out some details which I need. > I was informed by a friend of a Toronto university giving chance to seniors > who will to do their Ph.D. I thought of it, and tried to find a guide. > Unfortunately, Prof. Arthur Rubinoff, author of India's Use of Force in Goa, > suffered from some heart ailments, as his wife, Prof. Janet, informed me. I > hope to approach him now, or ask him if he knows any professor who would be > willing to be my guide. > I was also bit taken aback because of my age. I don't know what benefit it > would serve me, as it would take lot of time and effort. However, the subject > appeals to me. > I don't have Valmiki's earlier book and I forgot to check it up during my > visit to Goa this year. > Any suggestions of books regarding this subject is welcome, and for which I > would be grateful. I have Gaitonde's and Rajan Narayan's books. Also PP > Shirodkar's Who's Who of Freedom Fighters. > > Eugene Correia > > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thank you, Pamela. > Yes, nationalisms come in various forms. In the case of Goa, the point has > been discussed ... for instance that Goa was taken in 1510 because one party > had the power to subdue the other. It was the same in 1961. One party had the > power to subdue the other. I have brought these points to the attention of > the reader (very often as quotes). You will surely agree that it would be > beyond the scope of the book to discuss the points. That I feel is for the > readers to do. > Thanks much. > Best, v > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 6:24 PM Pamela D'Mello <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi Valmiki, > > Congratulations. Am in awe of your research, ferreting information and > piecing together the story, as only a journalist can. Can't wait to read the > book. > About the other issues that were thrown up in the discussions though, I am > not so sure if the prism of colonialisms and nationalisms and such binaries, > still holds some sixty or so years later. Many nationalisms have demonstrated > their own sub-colonialisms in this time. But that's another debate. > > Good luck with the book. And thanks for what is undoubtedly an invaluable > contribution. > Pamela > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 5:49 PM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thank you, Fatima. > You are very lavish with your kind words. > Best to you, Gentleman Joe and the family, v > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 5:27 PM FM N <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Congratulations, Valmiki! What you call your journalistic style -- the > information you manage to ferret out -- never ceases to amaze me. Very glad > the book is ready. > > More! > > Fatima > > > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 10:52, Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thank you, Roland. > You never fail to inspire smiles in whatever you write. > There were actually four camps (not two) as I have clearly elucidated -- and > as you correctly point out in parenthesis, none was exclusive to any > particular caste or creed, as is widely, and erroneously, believed. > My father was educated in Bombay (school, college and medical studies). He > was a doc in the Indian Army Medical Corps (now Defence Medical Corps) but I > was born and bred in Goa -- and assure you that though I hold the Indian > defence forces in much esteem, the fact of my father has not slanted or > jaundiced my view. > But may I hasten to add, as I think poet Milton said, 'better to reign in > hell than serve in heaven'. No one likes to be under the domination of a > foreign power, save when one stands to benefit socially, economically, or in > other ways. Please do read what Msgr Estevam Jeremias Mascarenhas, an elected > Goan 'deputado' native of Bastora, Bardez, told the Lisbon parliament on 24 > May 1853, in the book. Much before, Propaganda Fide appointed bishop, Mateus > Castro Mahale, had put his thoughts on this into action. I have cited several > such instances, both of the Goan clergy and civilian. > I also speak of anachronism, though in a different context. > I quote about a dozen Portuguese authors, civil and military (besides, of > course, 130+ authors from Goa, a few from India, but most international). > Strictly speaking, this is NOT research work that delves into primary sources > but more in my journalistic style of piecing together a story. > I hope you will not be disappointed, and would love your thoughts on it (here > or privately). > Thanks again, best, v > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:14 AM Roland Francis <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Goa before the 1961 Indian military action leading to the expelling of > Portuguese rule, saw a division of the population into two camps (non > religious, non caste). One favoured the continuation of Portuguese, the > other did not. > > Valmiki’s book, going by the title, will express the views of the latter > section. After all Valmiki’s father was a British Army (rather than > Portuguese Army) commissioned officer in the medical branch and therefore > heir to pro-India sentiments. What we also need side by side is a Goa centric > pro Portuguese view taking a modern stance on the matter and looking in > hindsight as Valmiki probably does, so we can balance the two views. There > are a few such books but written by die-hard Portuguese speaking Goans whose > views would be probably anachronistic. > > Having said that, I look forward as enthusiastically to read this latest book > as I have all Valmiki’s previous writings. > > Roland Francis > Toronto. > > >> On Jun 18, 2023, at 3:39 PM, 'Rosa Maria Perez' via Goa-Research-Net >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> Iam thrilled to receive this news and eager to read it. >> Good wishes, >> >> Rosa Maria Perez >> Professora jubilada >> Departamento de Antropologia >> >> <Outlook-4tn5od2r.png><Outlook-5lmgniof.png> >> Circle of Studies on South Asia >> >> <Outlook-ykktjdev.png> >> Visiting Professor >> Anthropology >> >> >> >> >> >> >> De: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> em nome de Valmiki Faleiro >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Enviado: 18 de junho de 2023 17:57 >> Para: Goa Research Net <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Assunto: Re: [GRN] Coming soon: Goa, 1961 -- The Complete Story of >> Nationalism and Integration (Valmiki Faleiro) >> >> Thank you, Selma! >> Best, v >> >> On Sun, 18 Jun, 2023, 8:55 pm 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net, >> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Congratulations, Val, on being published by Penguin India. 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