Thanks Arthur for sending the info. In fact, I just got Janet's message in which she explained that you are undergoing treatment. I pray that you recover quickly.
Eugene Correia On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:54 AM Arthur Rubinoff <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m recovering, > AR > > On Jun 19, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Eugene Correia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The last I spoke with Janet, she told me he's recovering. If anything > worse had happened, she would inform. However, I will get in touch with her > and find out. Will post here. > > Eugene > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:39 AM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> 1. Are you sure Prof. Arthur Rubinoff is around? >> 2. Goa's Who's Who of Freedom Fighters is a Goa Gazeteers Dept book, >> produced when PP Shirodkar (Jr.) was Director of Archives (concurrently of >> Gazeteers). A few copies are still available at the Goa Gazeteers Dept at >> Junta House, Panjim -- at ridiculously low prices fixed in the 1980s. I >> have cited from both volumes. >> 3. See the select bibliography in my book. >> Trust this helps. >> Best, v >> >> On Mon, 19 Jun, 2023, 7:49 pm Eugene Correia, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The freedom/annexation/liberation issue with regards to Goa is complex. >>> For people who are interested in pro-Portuguese stance, there is at least >>> one good book by the former consul-general of the Portuguese in Bombay. >>> Just this morning I picked up Goa's Freedom Struggle by Dr. Juliao Menezes >>> as I want to check some things that Dr. Shusila Mendes mentioned in her >>> piece in OHeraldo. I also have the pamphlet, The Goa Action, by D. R. >>> Nakekar, and would sought out some details which I need. >>> I was informed by a friend of a Toronto university giving chance to >>> seniors who will to do their Ph.D. I thought of it, and tried to find a >>> guide. Unfortunately, Prof. Arthur Rubinoff, author of India's Use of Force >>> in Goa, suffered from some heart ailments, as his wife, Prof. Janet, >>> informed me. I hope to approach him now, or ask him if he knows any >>> professor who would be willing to be my guide. >>> I was also bit taken aback because of my age. I don't know what benefit >>> it would serve me, as it would take lot of time and effort. However, the >>> subject appeals to me. >>> I don't have Valmiki's earlier book and I forgot to check it up during >>> my visit to Goa this year. >>> Any suggestions of books regarding this subject is welcome, and for >>> which I would be grateful. I have Gaitonde's and Rajan Narayan's books. >>> Also PP Shirodkar's Who's Who of Freedom Fighters. >>> >>> Eugene Correia >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you, Pamela. >>>> Yes, nationalisms come in various forms. In the case of Goa, the point >>>> has been discussed ... for instance that Goa was taken in 1510 because one >>>> party had the power to subdue the other. It was the same in 1961. One party >>>> had the power to subdue the other. I have brought these points to the >>>> attention of the reader (very often as quotes). You will surely agree that >>>> it would be beyond the scope of the book to discuss the points. That I feel >>>> is for the readers to do. >>>> Thanks much. >>>> Best, v >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 6:24 PM Pamela D'Mello <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Valmiki, >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations. Am in awe of your research, ferreting information and >>>>> piecing together the story, as only a journalist can. Can't wait to read >>>>> the book. >>>>> About the other issues that were thrown up in the discussions though, >>>>> I am not so sure if the prism of colonialisms and nationalisms and such >>>>> binaries, still holds some sixty or so years later. Many nationalisms have >>>>> demonstrated their own sub-colonialisms in this time. But that's another >>>>> debate. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck with the book. And thanks for what is undoubtedly an >>>>> invaluable contribution. >>>>> Pamela >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 5:49 PM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, Fatima. >>>>>> You are very lavish with your kind words. >>>>>> Best to you, Gentleman Joe and the family, v >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 5:27 PM FM N <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratulations, Valmiki! What you call your journalistic style -- >>>>>>> the information you manage to ferret out -- never ceases to amaze me. >>>>>>> Very >>>>>>> glad the book is ready. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fatima >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 at 10:52, Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, Roland. >>>>>>>> You never fail to inspire smiles in whatever you write. >>>>>>>> There were actually four camps (not two) as I have clearly >>>>>>>> elucidated -- and as you correctly point out in parenthesis, none was >>>>>>>> exclusive to any particular caste or creed, as is widely, and >>>>>>>> erroneously, >>>>>>>> believed. >>>>>>>> My father was educated in Bombay (school, college and medical >>>>>>>> studies). He was a doc in the *Indian Army Medical Corps* (now >>>>>>>> Defence Medical Corps) but I was born and bred in Goa -- and assure you >>>>>>>> that though I hold the Indian defence forces in much esteem, the fact >>>>>>>> of my >>>>>>>> father has not slanted or jaundiced my view. >>>>>>>> But may I hasten to add, as I think poet Milton said, 'better to >>>>>>>> reign in hell than serve in heaven'. No one likes to be under the >>>>>>>> domination of a foreign power, save when one stands to benefit >>>>>>>> socially, >>>>>>>> economically, or in other ways. Please do read what Msgr Estevam >>>>>>>> Jeremias >>>>>>>> Mascarenhas, an elected Goan 'deputado' native of Bastora, Bardez, >>>>>>>> told the >>>>>>>> Lisbon parliament on 24 May 1853, in the book. Much before, *Propaganda >>>>>>>> Fide* appointed bishop, Mateus Castro Mahale, had put his thoughts >>>>>>>> on this into action. I have cited several such instances, both of the >>>>>>>> Goan >>>>>>>> clergy and civilian. >>>>>>>> I also speak of anachronism, though in a different context. >>>>>>>> I quote about a dozen Portuguese authors, civil and military >>>>>>>> (besides, of course, 130+ authors from Goa, a few from India, but most >>>>>>>> international). Strictly speaking, this is NOT research work that >>>>>>>> delves >>>>>>>> into primary sources but more in my journalistic style of piecing >>>>>>>> together >>>>>>>> a story. >>>>>>>> I hope you will not be disappointed, and would love your thoughts >>>>>>>> on it (here or privately). >>>>>>>> Thanks again, best, v >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:14 AM Roland Francis < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Goa before the 1961 Indian military action leading to the >>>>>>>>> expelling of Portuguese rule, saw a division of the population into >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> camps (non religious, non caste). One favoured the continuation of >>>>>>>>> Portuguese, the other did not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Valmiki’s book, going by the title, will express the views of the >>>>>>>>> latter section. After all Valmiki’s father was a British Army (rather >>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>> Portuguese Army) commissioned officer in the medical branch and >>>>>>>>> therefore >>>>>>>>> heir to pro-India sentiments. What we also need side by side is a Goa >>>>>>>>> centric pro Portuguese view taking a modern stance on the matter and >>>>>>>>> looking in hindsight as Valmiki probably does, so we can balance the >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> views. There are a few such books but written by die-hard Portuguese >>>>>>>>> speaking Goans whose views would be probably anachronistic. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Having said that, I look forward as enthusiastically to read this >>>>>>>>> latest book as I have all Valmiki’s previous writings. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Roland Francis >>>>>>>>> Toronto. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2023, at 3:39 PM, 'Rosa Maria Perez' via >>>>>>>>> Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Iam thrilled to receive this news and eager to read it. >>>>>>>>> Good wishes, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Rosa Maria Perez* >>>>>>>>> Professora jubilada >>>>>>>>> Departamento de Antropologia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <Outlook-4tn5od2r.png><Outlook-5lmgniof.png> >>>>>>>>> *Circle of Studies on South Asia* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <Outlook-ykktjdev.png> >>>>>>>>> Visiting Professor >>>>>>>>> Anthropology >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> *De:* [email protected] < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> em nome de Valmiki Faleiro < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Enviado:* 18 de junho de 2023 17:57 >>>>>>>>> *Para:* Goa Research Net <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Assunto:* Re: [GRN] Coming soon: Goa, 1961 -- The Complete Story >>>>>>>>> of Nationalism and Integration (Valmiki Faleiro) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, Selma! >>>>>>>>> Best, v >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Jun, 2023, 8:55 pm 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net, < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Congratulations, Val, on being published by Penguin India. 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