Thank you VM. 
I am definitely going to read both Baretto and Machado one by one and then 
listen to Menezes’ podcast interviews. 

How do I get a hold of the latter? Are they on You Tube.

Roland.


> On Jul 4, 2023, at 9:51 PM, V M <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is relevant: 
> https://www.heraldgoa.in/Cafe/Sunlight-is-the-Best-Disinfectant/191202
> 
> I highly recommend Barretto Xavier's book, especially, to understand the 
> fundamental questions of how so many Goans underwent conversion in the 16th + 
> 17th centuries. 
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, 07:09 Roland Francis, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This is a long-standing question in my mind which I have never, out of a 
>> hesitation of appearing foolish, or not confident that I would be asking it 
>> to the right person, ever asked before. But if I don’t get the answer here, 
>> I know I may not get it anywhere else. 
>> 
>> The question is this;
>> Have I been brainwashed into thinking, simply put, that missionaries and 
>> saints of old went to foreign lands, talked to the heathens and converted 
>> them happily to Christianity merely “by the grace of God”.
>> 
>> In the Indian context, stories about St Francis, St Thomas, St José Vaz and 
>> various others come to mind. They land, they befriend parts of the local 
>> population, they learn enough of the local language and before you know it, 
>> they have converted large swaths of the population to Christianity. Did they 
>> have sufficient funds sufficient to induce, given by their host kings, or 
>> were they dealing with disgruntled parts of the local people which made them 
>> easily vulnerable. 
>> 
>> I understand how conversion worked on a kingdom or empire level. The king or 
>> emperor embraces the new religion, converts all his subjects and his 
>> conquered peoples by example, favour, bias or just plain old force and 
>> violence. 
>> 
>> A one on one, or one on many system of conversion that worked very well with 
>> the saints, completely flummoxes me. 
>> 
>> Is there also a good book that can explain this?
>> 
>> Roland.
>> 
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