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On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, 07:42 Roland Francis, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you VM.
> I am definitely going to read both Baretto and Machado one by one and then
> listen to Menezes’ podcast interviews.
>
> How do I get a hold of the latter? Are they on You Tube.
>
> Roland.
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2023, at 9:51 PM, V M <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> This is relevant:
> https://www.heraldgoa.in/Cafe/Sunlight-is-the-Best-Disinfectant/191202
>
> I highly recommend Barretto Xavier's book, especially, to understand the
> fundamental questions of how so many Goans underwent conversion in the 16th
> + 17th centuries.
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, 07:09 Roland Francis, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> This is a long-standing question in my mind which I have never, out of a
>> hesitation of appearing foolish, or not confident that I would be asking it
>> to the right person, ever asked before. But if I don’t get the answer here,
>> I know I may not get it anywhere else.
>>
>> The question is this;
>> Have I been brainwashed into thinking, simply put, that missionaries and
>> saints of old went to foreign lands, talked to the heathens and converted
>> them happily to Christianity merely “by the grace of God”.
>>
>> In the Indian context, stories about St Francis, St Thomas, St José Vaz
>> and various others come to mind. They land, they befriend parts of the
>> local population, they learn enough of the local language and before you
>> know it, they have converted large swaths of the population to
>> Christianity. Did they have sufficient funds sufficient to induce, given by
>> their host kings, or were they dealing with disgruntled parts of the local
>> people which made them easily vulnerable.
>>
>> I understand how conversion worked on a kingdom or empire level. The king
>> or emperor embraces the new religion, converts all his subjects and his
>> conquered peoples by example, favour, bias or just plain old force and
>> violence.
>>
>> A one on one, or one on many system of conversion that worked very well
>> with the saints, completely flummoxes me.
>>
>> Is there also a good book that can explain this?
>>
>> Roland.
>>
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