Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

['Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net]

Dear Eugene, 

 

Learning a foreign language becomes difficult after a certain age. I tried Mandarin for four years when I was already in my sixties, and I realized I wasn't going to be successful, although I could recognize close to 1,000 characters, about one third of what I would have needed...So I gave it up. I wish I had started sooner...

 

As to tranlating for you, if you can send me a copy of the text you would like to have translated, I would very much like to give it a try.

 

Regards

 

Nuno

 

 

Sent: Monday, December 04, 2023 at 2:04 PM
From: "Eugene Correia" <eugene.corr...@gmail.com>
To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [GRN] Pamphlets

Dear Nuno,

 

I did attempt to learn Portuguese. I bought the Linguaphone cassettes about ten years ago. I did pick up some of it, but friends told me that you got to have some Portuguese to converse daily. The best place in Toronto to meet a lot of Portuguese people is downtown Toronto, where there's a club, on College Street.

In the suburb of Milton, about more than an hour from downtown Toronto, I didn't find people. I heard an elderly couple on the lawns speak in Portuguese and I stopped to say hai. To keep up with the language one has to use daily, isn't so?

My uncle, dad's cousin, wrote in three languages, English, Konkani and Portuguese, and he was a journalist and freedom fighter. My dad didn't know Portuguese, and so do in my extended family. Some just a shattering of Portuguse.

I love the tone of the language. I am Bombay-born, educated and worked in an English newspaper. I never lived in Goa, just went for holidays. 

It's too late in the day, as I am in my mid-70s, to learn the language, and not knowing how much I will use it.

Since I had the booklets, I just put on the GRN. My topic is Goa's socio-political development in the post-61 era, with a little bit of backhistory of the freedom struggle. I want to know if the then prevailing debate whether it was Liberation or Annexation is still heard in selected quarters. I would talk to some elderly people who lived in Portuguese Goa and post-61. I need to get views from both sides. I have the book India's Use of Force in Goa, by Prof. Arthur Rubinoff, though I can't find it right now. I will search for it. I also told Arthur that the book is missing. To cut a long story short, I gave access to a Goan and he took my whole library. I had to go to Small Claims Court, paying $600 for a lawyer, to get the books. Perhaps, he has kept some books hidden, as he didn't take me to his house. He kept the books for me to take back in the garage.

Regards,

 

Eugene Correia

 

 

 

On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 8:44 AM 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Eugene,

 

I do not have the possibility of translating all of them, but I would be happy to translate the one you felt would be of greater interest to you. Maybe other people could help with others.

 

Please do not take offense, but I sometimes wonder why more Goan people do not take the trouble to learn some Portuguese. It is the sixth most spoken language in the world and it must for sure have a place in your cultural history.

 

All the best

 

Nuno Cardoso da Silva

 

 

Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2023 at 11:36 PM
From: "Eugene Correia" <eugene.corr...@gmail.com>
To: "Goa-Research-Net" <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [GRN] Pamphlets

Going through some of my collections I found some pamphlets, mostly in Portuguese. I don’t read or understand Portuguese. These are mostly from Portuguese government departments or agencies.

Here they are:

 

1. Goa na Historia da Civilizacao, Dr. Socrates da Costa, August 14, 1947. The doctor was an MP, I suppose.

2. Principios duma reforma agraria (Communidades de Goa). Discurso proferido por Sua Ex O Governador Geral, 22 Setembrro de 1946..

3.Principes et Institutions de E’Etat Nouveau Portugais (Le Portugal D’Aujord’Hui)

4. A HEROINAS DE DIU (GRANDES PORTUGUESAS)

5. With Friendliness (On the Plane of Principles) (Coleccao  de Divulgacao e Cultura)

6. O Melhor Caminho (The Best Way) by Cultura (with English translation)

7. Independencia de Portugal  — 1150, 1640, 1940 (Edicoes da Comissao Nacional)

8. 20 Years of Mighty Achievements (28th May 1926 — 28th May 1945)  In English.

9. The Rights of Portuugese India (A lecture delivered at the Sociedade de Geografia in Lisbon, on March 14, 1950) Alberto Xavier. In English.

10. Here It Is Portugal Coleccao Divulgacaoe Culura. Speeches by Joao de Lucena, Portuguese Consul at Bombay. At a meeting held on 31st October 1949. One on Assertions of Loyralty of the Goan Community of Madras: by FX Fernandes, resident of Madras; We Goans, speeech broadcast on the night of Sept 20th, 1949 by Dr. Socrates da Costa, President of the “Uniao National and Deputy of the Portiuguese India in the National Assembly. Also writing by Menezes Braganza.

11. Ao Cabo de um ano de caminho, Dr. Jose  Bossa, July 1, 1947.

12. A Lusiranizacao de Goa, Artigo original de Mariano Saldo.

13. Portugal and its Overseas Provinces, the Case of Goa. Agencia Geral do Ultramar. Excerpt from Dr. Salazar’s address to his council of ministers in July 1953.

14. Portugal and the Far East, Statements of policy by the President of the Council of Ministers.

 

Does anyone has time to translate the Portuguese ones for me or for us?

 

 

Eugene Correia

 

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