I second Sandra here. It is absolutely impossible to do research on Goa if one 
does not have at least a rudimentary knowledge of this language. Even seasoned 
translators will get translations wrong and unless you can check translations 
for accuracy with the benefit of context, it does not work. Having said that, 
it is not impossible to acquire a rudimentary understanding of this language 
within a fairly short time, and I suspect within two to three years of 
continued effort, one can become adept at this language which was most Catholic 
Goans is vaguely familiar and hidden in cryptomnesia. 
Best,Selma

    On Tuesday, 5 December 2023 at 06:15:11 GMT, sandra lobo 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Hi Helga. For years I have been defending that unless, at least for academic 
purposes, Portuguese is considered as a Goan language, necessary to be learned 
by students/researchers of Social Sciences and Humanities, Goan capacity to 
research its own past, namely its intellectual history and literature, will 
remain limited and its heritage will be no longer. From what I have been 
informed there is now an effort to have a more collaborative attitude between 
departments to overcome limitations, let's hope it is consistent. Best wishes, 
Sandra








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De: [email protected] <[email protected]> em 
nome de Helga do Rosario Gomes <[email protected]>
Enviado: 4 de dezembro de 2023 23:33
Para: Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]>
Assunto: [GRN] Portuguese for non Portuguese researchers It’s quite unfortunate 
that many researchers are stymied because of their inability to read 
Portuguese. Unfortunate not only for the frustration it causes the researchers 
but also the loss of information to the general public especially in this 
current polarized India. Universities like Columbia where I work demand that a 
PhD student take courses that extend the breadth and depth of his/her 
knowledge. But this isn’t the case in most universities worldwide nor is it 
applicable to independent researchers not affiliated to universities or 
institutions.But there’s a possible solution to this problem although it would 
need collaboration and the breaking of silos both of which from my experience 
are very hard to accomplish at the Goa university. Why don’t researchers with 
great ideas and enthusiasm as well as  access to documents collaborate with the 
faculty and more importantly with students of the Portuguese Department of Goa 
Univ? The latter would reap in terms of multidisciplinary collaborations, 
co-authorship in papers and books and exposure to a big world! This isn’t 
unusual in the world of science and technology. Data science students are made 
to work in libraries, linguistics, philosophy departments and medical and earth 
sciences. Data crunching, like speaking a language, is a skill. 
Currently very little research is being undertaken at Goa Univ.’s  Portuguese 
department probably because the effort is mostly to produce more Portuguese 
teachers but a collaboration such as I suggest would produce historians, 
researchers, thinkers etc. I hope at least one student or faculty from the 
Portuguese department lurking in the periphery of this group responds. It’s 
time Goa moved beyond Vem Cantar and Festas do Povo.Best,Helga 
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