John Figeredo r. I was enlightened by your piece on what the Portuguese explorer Albuquerque did as an act of compassion to protect the rights of Muslim woman..now 500 years later we have leaders like Hitler, Idi Amin of Uganda and now The Israeli President Naughty Nathanauh behaving like animals. The Almighty created humans with a free will to respect the Rights of all certainly NOT to abuse these rights for ALL and not only for the JEWS only
Any nation big or small supporting . the senseless killing including of volunteers should be condemned. Peace has more dividends On Sun, 14 Apr 2024, 17:34 John de Figueiredo, <[email protected]> wrote: > To Adolfo: > During the war with the Muslims to expel them from Goa in the year 1510, > Albuquerque sheltered Muslim women and children into a separate boat; he > prohibited his men from touching them; he ordered them not to kill any > Brahman (stating that “in this land, I.e. Goa, they do not kill Brahmans”); > and he had one of his men, a young nobleman, hung because he disobeyed his > order and swam to the boat at night out of curiosity to see the Muslim > women who were sheltered. We should compare this to what is happening today > (514 years later) in Gaza before we criticize Albuquerque. > John M. de Figueiredo > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 14, 2024, at 5:41 AM, Adolfo Mascarenhas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you for the correction. It was a horrible and shameful tradition > made by man.....I wonder what was the reaction of sons to see their own > mother burnt in boiling oil > I suppose they even cheered at the heroism of their Mothers. Clearly their > conscience and brain was numbed. So if Albuquerque intervened I pray that > the Almighty pardoned him. > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2024, 02:46 John de Figueiredo, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The sati tradition was not abolished by the Jesuits. It was abolished by >> Afonso de Albuquerque, the Portuguese Governor of Goa, after the Portuguese >> liberated Goa from the Muslim rule of Bijapur at the request of Goan >> Hindus. Faced with this decision, the Goan Hindus confined the widows to >> the temple of Mhalsadevi in Verna. The widows were viewed as having lost >> their caste and were placed together with the “bailadeiras” (temple dancing >> women) to live there for the rest of their lives. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 13, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Adolfo Mascarenhas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> I was impressed with the exposure and evolution of the rights of Women. >> As has been pointed out excluding women is not only in Third World >> Countries but existed even in the US until the 1920s and in Portugal until >> the 1930s under Salazar's rule >> The SATI tradition of burning the window when the husband died was >> mercifully abolished by the Jesuits early during the Portuguese rule of Goa >> I am particularly interested in this topic because my late wife Prof >> Ophelia Mascarenhas and later joined by Prof Marjorie Mbilinyi & Pat >> Mbuguni pioneered work in Tanzania >> By coincidence The Institute Resource Assessment had more women >> researchers than men etc >> >> >> M >> >> >> >> >> >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024, 18:30 John de Figueiredo, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The village communities existed in Goa and the Konkan centuries before >>> the arrival of the Portuguese. The Portuguese initially called them >>> “municipios” thinking that they were like the Portuguese “municipios” >>> (municipalities). Later the Jesuits in Goa invented the word “comunidades” >>> which was far more appropriate. The exclusion of women pre-dated the >>> Portuguese. But let us not forget that in the USA women could not vote >>> until 1919-1920 (19th Amendment to the US Constitution). In Portugal, women >>> were granted the right to vote for the first time in 1931 under Salazar’s >>> Estado Novo. The Portuguese respected the local traditions and >>> institutions in Goa during the first 30 years (with rare exceptions such as >>> the abolition of the “suttee/sati”, a practice they considered inhumane) >>> and made minimal changes to the village community system during their 451 >>> year rule. They also implemented laws favoring women following the >>> Portuguese civil code. >>> John M de Figueiredo >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2024, at 6:21 AM, Marianne de Nazareth < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thank you for that education -- I just surmised that since it was called >>> the Communidade it was set up by them. >>> Wonder if one of the 'tweaks' was to leave us women out! >>> >>> Marianne >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 11:32 PM John Nazareth <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The Communidades were not set up by the Portuguese. >>>> >>>> These village communities were originally call the Gaunkari – they were >>>> set up perhaps 1500 years ago. The are an indigenous society. >>>> >>>> The Portuguese made some minor changes and renamed them to Communidades. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Marianne de Nazareth >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2024 8:55 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Understanding the clans of Goa... (John Nazareth) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I find it extremely paradoxical that women were included in the >>>> inheritance of property by the Portuguese BUT the zonn issued by >>>> Communidade ( also set up by the Portuguese) leaves women completely out! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess something is better than nothing is what I tell myself, when >>>> looking after the old homestead, for the family! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marianne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 11:59 AM John Nazareth < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nevertheless, it is encouraging that the sale of land proceeds are >>>> being passed to the gaunkars. >>>> >>>> But Marianne has a point that women are being left out. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Marianne de Nazareth >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:07 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Understanding the clans of Goa... (John Nazareth) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ok! Thats good to know as I heard in Pilerne, its in the region of 14- >>>> 17 k per person. >>>> >>>> Our tenants are holding the panchayat posts now! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marianne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 10:08 PM Frederick Noronha < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Pilerne is an exception. The *zonn *is coming from the sale of their >>>> permanent land assets to the industrial estate atop the village hillock. In >>>> comunidades I know of, the zonn is about Rs 100 per year, and that too, >>>> only if you register a year in advance. Not worth the time and trouble. >>>> What is the *zonn* in the other areas? >>>> >>>> An interesting study would be to see how comunidades got treated since >>>> the 1960s, when they were stripped of their powers and income, especially >>>> during the era of land reforms across India... That was also incidentally >>>> when large landholders in parts of Goa joined politics and didn't lose most >>>> of their assets. FN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 21:45, Marianne de Nazareth < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The system is alive and well in my village in Goa for decades. Infact >>>> the males who register get a very handsome zonn. >>>> >>>> To clarify ---this is in MY family property and NOT my husbands. By >>>> Portuguese law everyone gets a share including the spouses. >>>> >>>> I am happy to look after the family homestead, as my connections to it >>>> are strong. >>>> >>>> I just felt the zonn was meant to help maintain the property which due >>>> to my gender I am not eligible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marianne >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 6:55 PM John Nazareth <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, first of all, the system is now practically defunct so there >>>> would be nothing left to reform. >>>> >>>> I guess at the time it was formulate the intention was that the woman >>>> would join the communidade of her husband and as such she had access to her >>>> husband’s zonn. >>>> >>>> Frankly, I have found that Goan women were/are very strong and often >>>> save their men from themselves. >>>> >>>> (For a personal example, when Uganda exploded in 1972 I was thinking of >>>> joining the guerrillas in neighbouring Tanzania to fight Amin. I got >>>> married to girlfriend Cynthia Fernandes who was outside the country at the >>>> time. That was the end of my guerrilla thoughts.) >>>> >>>> I have always joked with my friends that Goan society was the only >>>> “patriarchal” society run by the women. >>>> >>>> This is only half a joke; it is a reality. Goan women have run their >>>> homes. >>>> >>>> The only thing is that they would do in their husband’s village. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But further to that – I have noticed in my research on clans that a >>>> significant percentage of cases the family unit has moved to live in the >>>> village of the mother (while getting the zonn from the husband’s village. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This too confirms my belief that God is a great joker, but the whole >>>> world is afraid to laugh. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> P.S. In the old days the Goan inheritance rules were that the >>>> villager’s family property was shared between the male children. I believe >>>> that it changed so that women also had inheritance rights. I am not sure >>>> when it changed – someone else would be better positioned to say more. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Marianne de Nazareth >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2024 2:29 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Understanding the clans of Goa... (John Nazareth) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What I feel sad about is that we daughters of the family -- who are the >>>> ONLY ones looking after the family homes -- are not part of the Zonn. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Isnt it time such patriarchy was changed to include us women inheritors? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr Marianne Furtado de Nazareth >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 9:41 AM John Nazareth <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The relationship between the gavnkars, zonnkars, munddkars, and other >>>> players in the gavnkari have been written about for many years and I was >>>> used to reading about them. >>>> >>>> But when Leroy Veloso first showed me his work in 2007 about using the >>>> Matricula – which was primarily for registering people who were to receive >>>> some fraction of the zonn – to identify clans I immediately recognized it >>>> as a valuable bi-product. I don’t think that was its intention but it is >>>> important. >>>> >>>> And its simplicity is elegant. I was surprised that more historians >>>> were not doing it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course, there is deeper work that can proceed from it and the master >>>> of such work is Bernardo De Sousa in his book “The Last Prabhu”. >>>> >>>> Someone needs to create a how-to paper to work with the mahajans to >>>> identify the root surnames the way Bernardo has done. That is not simple. >>>> >>>> But I wanted to point out how simple it is to work with the matricula, >>>> say from 1940, to unearth the clans of a village. >>>> >>>> That is important because now that the Gavnkari has been treated so >>>> callously by the new institutions of governance those documents are in >>>> danger. >>>> >>>> Everyone needs to work quickly to work with their communidade to create >>>> a clan list. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Once the matricula ledgers go to the Panjim Archives it is all over. >>>> >>>> I couldn’t find anyone there who knew what they were and how to get >>>> access to them. They are lost in the ether. >>>> >>>> Finding books of baptisms, marriages and deaths are easy, but you can >>>> forget about the matriculas. >>>> >>>> So work with what you can find in the village communidades today. >>>> >>>> I sat in the Nachinola communidade for just 2 hours and was able to >>>> create a table. Nachinola was my late wife’s village. >>>> >>>> I couldn’t thank them enough for their kindness. They wouldn’t even >>>> accept a donation for their institution. >>>> >>>> But what I have created has been highly prized by my Nachinola friends. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I stand in awe of the traditional system of village governance that >>>> stood for over 1000 years and that is now in its twilight years. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John Nazareth >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *wrdsilva >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 7, 2024 12:15 AM >>>> *To:* Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Understanding the clans of Goa... (John Nazareth) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My fieldwork in Goa shows the Matricula etc. have merit, but the 'clan' >>>> system is difficult to describe the way it is often done. Ganvponn, >>>> Ganvkari, Zonn, Zonnkar, Munddkar, Mittgaudde etc.etc. makes the rural >>>> system a little more complicated than it is recovered from 'communidades' >>>> accounts, or vangodd systems. We need good fieldwork complimented by >>>> documents, Portuguese and local (Konkani, Marathi) in order to get a better >>>> grasp of the system operating and changing over external interventions in >>>> Goa. >>>> >>>> William Robert Da Silva >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 4, 2024 at 1:34:30 PM UTC+5:30 Rowena wrote: >>>> >>>> Very exciting. I remember wanting to work on this decades ago. Glad >>>> someone is 👍🏼 Regards, rowena >>>> >>>> On Thu, 4 Apr, 2024, 13:25 Frederick Noronha, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A paper by *John Nazareth* <[email protected]>, Canada-based >>>> statistician and history enthusiast. Check it out below. He writes: >>>> "These tables can be gleaned from the Matricula, while is the ledger >>>> within the Communidade office on which they log the gaunkars who are >>>> registering for their zonn." He says while his work covers only a few >>>> villages, others could do so for more. 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