Mr. Dávila, Sorry, but I tested again the access to all these 17 titles. And I freely downloaded papers from the websites of all of them, except the two discontinued.
If you really think that these journals are not OA, I suggest you let them know it. *Maurício Tuffanihttp://folha.com/mauriciotuffani <http://folha.com/mauriciotuffani>[email protected] <[email protected]>* 2015-04-04 11:27 GMT-03:00 Jacinto Dávila <[email protected]>: > I am sorry Mr. Tuffani, but your are just adopting Beall's list and, > therefore, copying his mistakes or, at least, his anti-OA stance. > > You suggest that Qualis comes "without rigor" and inmediately claims "The > expression “predatory journals” has been used for some years to designate > academic journals published by companies operating without scientific rigor > an important scientific communication initiative that came up with the > internet. This is the *Open Access > <http://legacy.earlham.edu/%7Epeters/fos/brief-port.htm>* (OA), the > editorial model of publishing articles in open access, funded by the > academic institutions sponsoring their own journals or by charging fees > from the authors of the studies." > > Well, this 17 journals in your lists ARE NOT Open Access. They did not > even claim to be: > > *WSEAS <http://www.wseas.org/> (World Science and Engineering Academy > Society)**** > > - WSEAS Transactions on Acoustics and Music > <http://www.worldses.org/journals/acoustics/index.html> [ISSN: > 1109-9577 – descontinuado] > - WSEAS Transactions on Applied and Theoretical Mechanics > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4006> [ISSN: 1991-8747] > - WSEAS Transactions on Applied and Theoretical Mechanics > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4006> [ISSN: 2224-3429] > - WSEAS Transactions on Biology and Biomedicine > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4011> > - WSEAS Transactions on Circuits > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=2861> > - WSEAS Transactions on Circuits and Systems > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=2861> > - WSEAS Transactions on Communications > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4021> > - WSEAS Transactions on Computer Research > <http://www.worldses.org/journals/research/index.html> [ISSN: > 1991-8755 – descontinuado] > - WSEAS Transactions on Computers > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4026> > - WSEAS Transactions on Environment and Development > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4031> > - WSEAS Transactions on Fluid Mechanics > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4036> > - WSEAS Transactions on Information Science and Applications > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4046> > - WSEAS Transactions on Mathematics > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4051> > - WSEAS Transactions on Power Systems > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4057> > - WSEAS Transactions on Systems > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4057> > - WSEAS Transactions on Systems and Control > <http://wseas.org/wseas/cms.action?id=4073> > > ------------------------------ > > ****O WASEAS não tem clareza sobre os valores de suas taxas de > processamento de artigos. O publisher tem feito muitas “operações casadas” > que envolvem taxas de inscrição em evento* > > Maybe what you want to say is what Mr. Beall seems to state: they are > "potentially" OA. But then, with this lack of rigor, everything is OA. > Perhaps, while you are criticising OA for this you should also, for the > sake of neutrality, explain how one of these 17 has this kind of "standard" > support: > > WSEAS Transactions on Systems and Control (appears in) > > - Cabell Publishing > - CiteSeerx > - Cobiss > - Compendex® > - EBSCO > - EBSCOhost | Academic Search Research and Development > - EBSCOhost | Applied Science and Technology Source > - EBSCOhost | Energy & Power Source > - EBSCOhost | TOC Premier™ > - Electronic Journals Library > - ELSEVIER® > - Engineering Index (EI) > - Engineering Village > - Google Scholar > - Inspec | The IET > - Microsoft Academic Search System > - SCIRUS > - SCOPUS® > - SWETS > - TIB|UB | German National Library of Science and Technology > - Ulrich's International Periodicals Directory > - WorldCat OCLC > > These are not OA indexes. Predatory behaviour is a wider issue. > > > > > On 4 April 2015 at 06:57, Mauricio Tuffani <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The translation is now available: >> >> Brazilian graduate system counts now 235 predatory journals >> <http://mauriciotuffani.blogfolha.uol.com.br/brazilian-graduate-system-counts-now-235-predatory-journals/> >> >> >> >> *Maurício Tuffanihttp://folha.com/mauriciotuffani >> <http://folha.com/mauriciotuffani>[email protected] >> <[email protected]>* >> >> >> 2015-04-03 18:34 GMT-03:00 Mauricio Tuffani <[email protected]>: >> >> Mr. Davila, >>> >>> The list is published from March 9 — accessible through the same link in >>> my report indicated here by Mr. Beall — and has been updated today. Now are >>> at least 235 predatory journals in Qualis. >>> >>> >>> http://mauriciotuffani.blogfolha.uol.com.br/publishers-predatorios-e-seus-periodicos-no-qualis/ >>> >>> Auditing and supervision are precisely what is not allowed by all the >>> publishers in that list. In all my posts and articles I have emphasized the >>> need for such transparency. And I do not need to explain this by defining >>> OA. My focus is not to attack OA, but also is not make OA advocacy. >>> >>> Maurício Tuffani >>> >>> 2015-04-02 18:47 GMT-03:00 Jacinto Dávila <[email protected]>: >>> >>> Publish that list Mr Tuffani. Openness is not only about allowing papers >>>> to be read "in the Internet". But also about allowing auditing and >>>> supervision of all sorts and at all levels. I understand you must summarize >>>> the arguments for non-expert readers. But this is a gross >>>> over-simplification of OA: >>>> >>>> " >>>> >>>> *Open Access* >>>> >>>> Predatory journals are academic journals published by companies >>>> operating, without scientific rigor, an important scientific communication >>>> initiative that came up with the internet. This is the *Open Access >>>> <http://legacy.earlham.edu/%7Epeters/fos/brief-port.htm>* (OA), the >>>> editorial model of publishing articles in open access, based on the >>>> charging of fees from authors or funding by scientific institutions. >>>> >>>> Both in the OA as in the traditional model maintained by annual >>>> subscriptions or fees per downloaded article from the Internet, reputable >>>> journals take months or even over a year to review and accept articles, or >>>> reject them. >>>> " >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 April 2015 at 16:41, Jean-Claude Guédon < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If some academics find it difficult publicly to denounce what >>>>> obviously are rogue journals, others obviously will. It is only a question >>>>> of perseverance. Furthermore, we need academics only to endorse journals >>>>> that they know to be legitimate. Those without the ability to have five >>>>> open sponsors will simply stand out in the list (that for colleagues who >>>>> might be scared of being sued). >>>>> >>>>> Besides, Mr. Tuffani, all you have to do is publish the list of the >>>>> 200 doubtful titles and ask who would be willing to put his/her good name >>>>> behind any of these journals. If it turns out that some are actually >>>>> legitimate, we shall soon know. They will have no difficulty in garnering >>>>> five sponsors who can be easily identified and queried as to their >>>>> decision >>>>> to support a particular title. >>>>> >>>>> Jean-Claude Guédon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Jean-Claude Guédon >>>>> Professeur titulaire >>>>> Littérature comparée >>>>> Université de Montréal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le jeudi 02 avril 2015 à 17:28 -0300, Mauricio Tuffani a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> I will write about the suggestions of Mrs. Morrison and Mr. Guédon to >>>>> CAPES. But I sent them previously for this Brazilian federal agency, as I >>>>> reported in my post yesterday, whose translation is available in the page >>>>> of the link below. >>>>> >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> The Qualis and the silence of the Brazilian researchers >>>>> >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://mauriciotuffani.blogfolha.uol.com.br/the-qualis-and-the-silence-of-the-brazilian-researchers/ >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> *************************** >>>>> Maurício Tuffani >>>>> Journalist, science writer >>>>> São Paulo, SP, Brazil >>>>> Mobile: +55 11 99164-8443 >>>>> Phone: +55 11 2366-9949 >>>>> http://folha.com/mauriciotuffani >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> *************************** >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> GOAL mailing >>>>> [email protected]http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> GOAL mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jacinto Dávila >>>> http://webdelprofesor.ula.ve/ingenieria/jacinto >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GOAL mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> > > > -- > Jacinto Dávila > http://webdelprofesor.ula.ve/ingenieria/jacinto > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > >
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