Hello Santosh,
Thanks for posting my message. I must have fogotten to delete
the footer. Here goes.

Santosh wrote:
SH. Venantius Pinto, sorry I do not see your point here.

VP. I see.

SH. Can A. Veronica know from personal experience that Krishna
Menon
invaded Goa because he wanted to provide employment for
unemployed
"Malyalis"?

VP. My note above to A. Veronica was to exhort him, though in
gentle terms
to answer exactly the questiom that you have posed to me.
Hopefully we will both have our answer.

SH. Does personal experience with some number of "Malyalis"
justify
stereotyping all "Malyalis"?

VP. Needless to say, but since you ask-it absolutely does not
justify typecasting all �Malyalis� (Keralites)
or for that matter any grouping for the personal experiences one
might have encountered while
interacting with a few of any said group.

SH. What do you mean by "the other label of bigotry would not
apply since
it is the "unreasoned attachement" to ones beliefs"? Do you
think
these beliefs are supported by reason? Can they be justified?

VP. Bigotry as I understand, is when one maintains beliefs or
notions devoid of reason,
but a stubborn singular-mided and intolerant desire to propound,
and propogate those beliefs. These opinions are usually rooted
in  notions of class, race, ethnicity, gender and sexuality.
What I am saying here to A. Veronica is simply that if he could
express himself clearly
and truthfully then he would have answered to your message
wherby he has come across
as indulging in "innuendo, distortion and fabrication". All
three of those labels together express �bigotry�.

Hopefully, this time around I am coming across a bit more
cogently.

Venantius

>Venantius Pinto had some good critical comments to make in
response to
>my post on the above subject. They did not show up on Goanet
even
>though he tried to copy them to it. So here they are:
>
>"A. Veronica,
>
>Perhaps what you wrote below is what you have experienced (and
if yes,
>you must see yourself as the aggrieed party) or observed first
hand.
>If you care to, I would be happy if you could put some distance
beween
>yourself and the labels -- "innuendo, distortion and
fabrication". In
>doing so, the other label of bigotry would not apply since it
is the
>"unreasoned attachement" to ones beliefs. I am sure yopu have
your
>reasons and you will agree that some thing scould be said
differently.
>I do not mean political correctness but simply through reason.
>
>Help me out here A. Veronica.
>
>Venantius
>
>PS: Santosh Helekar, I hope you see my point here."
>
>...............................................................
....
>
>
>Venantius Pinto, sorry I do not see your point here.
>
>Can A. Veronica know from personal experience that Krishna
Menon
>invaded Goa because he wanted to provide employment for
unemployed
>"Malyalis"?
>
>Does personal experience with some number of "Malyalis" justify
>stereotyping all "Malyalis"?
>
>What do you mean by "the other label of bigotry would not apply
since
>it is the "unreasoned attachement" to ones beliefs"? Do you
think
>these beliefs are supported by reason? Can they be ju
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