I know those social indicators, Gilbert, and they are very good. But one must bear in mind that they were achieved over a period of 42 years. What else could one expect after 42 years? The rest of the world achieved the same and in many cases far more. What you don't mention is that Goa's indicators in 1961 were among the best in the third world and considerably better than those of India. In fact, it is because Goa already had a headstart that it was able to progress faster. Small wonder that today it is the state with the best indicators in India (on the whole). Irrespective of who is in power, some social indicators have been improving continuously all over the world (except for half a dozen war-torn countries). It isn't a case of Goa being able to be singled out for that. The infant mortality rate was quite high in Portugal itself in 1961. Today it is lower than that of the UK!

You claim that there's a lot more to see, eat and drink in other european countries...like Italy and Spain. Here's another brilliant example of how hollow some remarks made on Goanet can sound. Obviously there's more to see in those countries - Portugal is one fifth the size of Spain and Italy has almost 6 times our population! Could it be otherwise? These are things that you can't change, can you? Now to say that there's more to eat and drink in those countries....that's puzzling! You refer to quantity, quality? It seems obvious to me that you've never been in Portugal. If you did, you did not eat in any quality restaurant here. Our gastronomy is amazing, our wines are excellent, this is precisely what tourists keep praising about Portugal. By comparison, eating in Spain can be very disappointing. In any case, what we eat and drink is a matter of personal taste and choice, and as such subjective!

I did not say that Goans visiting Portugal would feel shock and awe. I said that some that I received at the airport and accompanied here did. They could hardly disguise their amazement with Lisbon and the country in general. See the difference between what I said and what you claim that I said? It's the difference between being rigorous or careless quoting others!

Rui Manuel Colla�o

Lisbon

From: "gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [Goanet]Portuguese nationality a colonial favour?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:05:20 -0000

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Rui Collaco wrote:
>
> > Let's get serious, gentlemen. I hold the view that the
neocolonial rulers
> > from New Delhi have used and abused Goa's land and people more in
these 42
> > years than the Portuguese in their 451-year rule!
>
> How would you justify such a statement?
>
> Just curious to know if this is based on some facts that you have
> researched or is this a personal opinion based on your
circumstances and
> prejudices.
>
>
> --
> Tariq Siddiqui
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Heres what the *neocolonists* have achieved--In 1961, the literacy
rate in Goa was 31%, infant mortality was 70 per thousand, birth rate
33 per thousand.  Today literacy is 86%, infant mortality 11 per
thousand, birth rate 15 per thousand.  Believe it or not, life
expectancy in Goa is 75 years, while Portugal it is 76 years.  Other
indicators are not comparible, however.  Collaco states that Goans
visiting Portugal will feel Shock and Awe! Having travelled widely
all over the World, I find that a bit hard to swallow.  Portugal is
great for a holiday, nothing more, nothing less. Although there is a
lot more to see, eat and drink in other European countries with a
Latin flavour like Italy and Spain.
regards,  Gilbert.


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