--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > His Catholic Church drawn advice for abstinence (in > previous posts) rather than the use of condoms for > safe sex horrifies me, especially when strongly > urged for HIV ravaged parts of the world. I think > such advice is plain bonkers. > Mario replies: > Here, for all of Goanet to see, is the REAL atheist secular humanist view of the world as it applies to "safe sex" and the spread of STD's. Is it any wonder that these problems continue unabated? > Cornel begins by repeating the falsehood that the Catholic Church wants Catholics to abstain from sex. No, it doesn't. The official Catholic position is that, as long as one is married, healthy un-infected Catholics should have sex with their healthy un-infected spouses till the cows come home, or their brains get fried, whichever comes first, and to heck with the consequences:-)) > Cornel next repeats the classic falsehood that the use of condoms represents "safe sex". Anyone with any knowledge of this subject would know that condoms have a failure rate for conception and STD's, even if condoms made of the correct materials are used, and even if the condoms are worn as carefully as they are supposed to be. Furthermore, there are some viral STD's that are immune to the use of condoms. > Under the theory that words mean something, the "unprovisional" truth is that the use of condoms is safer than not using any such barrier, but in no way "safe sex", as Cornel and the atheist secular humanists would like everyone to believe. > Cornel is "horrified" [as opposed to previous verbal histrionics like "ashamed", "afraid" or "terrified"] that someone would suggest abstinence as the only safe way to avoid getting pregnant or picking up a deadly STD like HIV/AIDS. You see, as a secular humanist, he has a solution for the unwanted pregnancy conundrum. It's called abortion. He and his ilk have no way out of the STD conundrum that is ravaging mostly poor countries like India and those in Africa. > In Africa, countries like Uganda that emphasize abstinence and monogamy as part of their public health education are having far more success than countries that are "horrified" at this emphasis. > Of course, there is an alternative in attempting to avoid STD's that may also horrify Cornel, and that is to have a monogamous relationship with a partner devoid of STD's. If one uses condoms of the correct materials and very carefully, this is the next level of safety to abstinence, but stlll not absolutely safe in avoiding an unwanted pregnancy. >
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