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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your post and for sharing with us your thought processes, in your
shift from Catholicism to atheism. It is not my intent to change your mind!
As I read you post and that of others from your camp, I am struck to the point
of disappointment, that you do not view your "new perspective" as a growth
opportunity to build on your past. You have a "new vision"; but hate your past
for discovering it. It appears you are not comfortable with your agnostic /
humanistic views and still looking for something. Yet, you need to find an
excuse to hold on to what you have discovered.
In spite of my reasonable plea to agnostics / atheists to stop attacking the
Catholic church and other faiths, you did it again in your response. This
leads me to believe, when atheists meet, they spend the first half of their
time, indoctrinating themselves of why they left their prior faith. This has
become a reflex reaction - "preamble to atheism" OR may be "In conclusion to
agnosticism ... let's condemn at our former faith" OR both, as in your
response. If any in your camp had a rock solid moral code, they would
repudiate your attacks, over the last three days. But alas! I do not see that,
in spite of pious pretenses that you-all have a moral code and proclaim, "No
virtue in chauvinism and self-righteousness". You in your prior post,
presented yourself as the most honest of them all - as a "Secular Humanist".
To help you and others in your crises, I compare you-all with many of my cancer
patients. These patients are angry at their diagnosis. Some instead of
accepting the situation and their diagnosis, they fight their family (close and
far relatives), doctors, and God. Only a few lung cancer patients blame
themselves and their smoking habit. While I empathize with these patients,
their continuing anger prevents them from coming to terms with their diagnosis,
making peace, and cooperating with the very people that could / are trying to
help them.
Your claims notwithstanding, as an atheist, your problems are not with the
Church and the God of the Christians ... which you-all love to hate. You have a
problem with all Gods of all faiths. Or else like many former Catholics, you
would have converted to another Christina denomination, Islam, Hinduism,
Jainism, Jewish faith etc etc. So, pardon me, an atheist's anti-Christian
stance is just a symptom of a confused mind. Initially reading your post, I
thought your problem was with the Church (an easy target). Yet your second-last
paragraph blames Christ himself. Hence I can only conclude that literally you
are making excuses for your own personal moral dilemmas. So if it not this
excuse, it will be that. The only suggestion I would have AGAIN: Stop using
the Catholic Church and Jesus Christ and God as your CRUTCH in your perusal of
atheism. And keep looking at your self. If atheism is a growth experience, as
you-all appear to think, you don't need an excuse to grow. Al
l power
to you.
Let me explain to you and others what I mean. I am happy to be a radiation
oncologist after my "family physician" training. I am not angry that I could
not be a family doctor or that I could not remain in India. Yet, some
immigrants to USA (and likely to Canada) are angry that they could not continue
to be in India. They use their inability to stay in India as an GRIPE not to
make the best of their new home and of immigrant status. These individuals
make everybody's efforts at helping them (settle in their new country)
worthless. In reality, these immigrants themselves are the problem, and are
often plain obnoxious. i.e. they are their own worst enemies. Yet they never
blame themselves. I am sure you have met these types. This analogy may apply
to you (see below). You have kindly identified your background. It suggest,
you may have an identity issue, and that may just be the tip of the iceberg.
In your virulent attack on the church, you absolve yourself with, "It is only
because that is the religion I am most familiar with and the one that seems to
have veered furthest away from the 'true path' of encouraging spirituality in
it's adherents...."
Why did you not select a religion that veered the least, "from the 'true path'
of encouraging spirituality"?
How many hours of spirituality and meditation do you NOW do every day?
Who prevented you from spending the same number of hours meditating as a
Catholic?
Perhaps the answer to the question is in your totally unsolicited and
unconnected attack in the second-last paragraph, on Jesus Christ himself. This
paragraph reflects your very twisted mind and the pathetic state of your
neurons. It is so off-the-wall (to be polite) and obnoxious that I would not
dignify it by copying it here or responding to it. And for the same reason, I
did not reproduce your post. I am glad the goanet administrators are doing
their job in blocking your posts, that go beyond professional decency. Shame on
you!
Kind Regards, GL
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