From: "Mario Goveia" <[email protected]>
From: "isouza" <[email protected]>
Mario asks:
Fr. Ivo,
You don't seem to understand that cancer has to be looked at on a case by
case basis. Every case of cancer is not curable so far, whereas there are
some formes of cancer that are now almost always curable if caught early
enough.
Fr. Ivo wrote:
I am meeting everyday people who have no hope of being cured of cancer...
Mario responds:
Instead of spreading religious quackery on Goanet, perhaps you can go to
Mumbai and convince Dr. Luzito DeSouza or Tata Memorial to open a cancer
clinic in Goa.
***You are wrong, this is not "religious quackery". We have Shanti Avedna in
Goa, and we know how much cancer is cured... We have lost a young man who
was declared "cured" after the chemotherapy and surgery, and when he was
thanking all for the "cure", he died of cancer...
Fr. Ivo wrote:
....the fact is that I find no evidence with the patients that I know...
Mario responds:
Sounds like the blind leading the blind. Like John Paul II counseling
couples on marital relations, and Pope Benny advising the world on
economics and depriving people from less developed countries from getting
jobs from outsourcing from the developed countries.
***We are not blind. You seem to be blind to understand that Benedict XVI is
not writing against oursourcing... What John Paul II wrote about marital
relations is valid...If you can speak of your experience, others can tell
you about theirs.
<<<What kind of guarantee does Faith provide? Can it guarantee a cure for
cancer?
***Neither can Science provide guarantee for cure of cancer... Faith can
provide a miracle... But we cannot demand it from God.
Therefore, this "admission" is not ignorance, but wisdom. May the
Goanetters choose to be guided by prudence, not by "scientific quackery",
and not dance to the tune of the scientists and politicians...
Are you aware that you are spreading not wisdon, but religious quackery,
and asking us to dance to your tune?
***What is "religious quackery" in this posting? I have not spoken of
religion, but of problems of medicine itself.
Not true. When my cancer was detected it had not spread.
***My statement is a general statement. It is difficult to detect it early.
While I was thinking about your condition, I met a lady whose mother was
operated of cancer of stomach in the first stage, but it spread to
oesophagus and she died within short time... It is not cure, but
prolongation of life...sometimes it is fast death...
***In most cases, there is recurrence, because cancer is not local, but
systemic, it spreads through blood or lymph.
If it is metastasized, it is only palliated. There can be remission. We
witness only deaths.
<<> If it metastatizes it's generally "Hasta la vista". Time to organize a
farewell party and prepare to go out in style:-))
***Thank God and "faith quackery" that you are still alive to give us your
wisdom... I do not know anyone who is alive among those whom I know...
So what? People die of other diseases as well, in spite of medical
treatment. Others respond to medical treatment and survive.
***Again, you are committing a blunder. Cancer is a serious, incurable
disease... There is no cure, total and permanent, as yet. Research is going
on to find a cure for cancer. Only then you can say that "cancer is
curable", all types, at all stages... I am speaking of cancer now, not of
other diseases. There are also more "incurable diseases"... When you say
that some do not respond to the medical treatment, you admit that the
disease was incurable in that case, in that stage..., in short, the limits
of medical science.
Regards.
Fr.Ivo
