Dear Prof Borges,

Without getting waylaid by any flame-bait, I'd like to state the following:

* Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by "Goan bishops". I took it to
mean bishops of Goa, while you meant bishops of Goan origin.

* For argument sake: if not all the bishops of Goa themselves trace their
origin to the Brahmin caste, how could all the bishops of Goan origin (of
which the former is a subset) be "Bamon"? At the same time, why exclude the
most prominent member of this list (Cardinal Valerian Gracias) on grounds
that he was Karachi born? Do we create exceptions just to prove our
argument? This is good for rhetorics, but I think we're confusing the issue
further.

* Since I don't wish to get caught up in what I see as the minor issues and
details here, I simply stand by the main thrust of my earlier points, which
was: (i) Are caste origins more important than the role played by a
particular individual? (ii) Were both Bamons and Chardos themselves not
excluded from the Catholic priesthood in Goa at one stage of our colonial
history? (iii) Don't we have individuals fighting caste within the Church
itself in today's Goa? (iv) Has it been the institution of the Catholic
Church itself that has supported caste, or individuals within the
institution in Goa and some other parts of India? (v) If we are really
against casteism, as we claim to be, then shouldn't we welcome the
sub-alternisation of the Catholic clergy, a process which is underway and
should hopefully change the attitude of the Church and its pastors in the
not-too-distant future?

These are serious concerns. But why only waddle in the cesspool of the
past, instead of looking hopefully to the future? FN

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