Hi Jeff,

>your intuition is very good

Don't all coders think alike :)

I was just working a test case that took over 10-15 minutes to
appear.. The strange thing is that it appeared immediately when I ran
it via the AJAX playground (coincidence?).
http://code.google.com/apis/ajax/playground/#historical_entries

I don't have any specific URL cases because I run it on all sorts of
random feeds.

What's strange is I've tried the feedurl?v=x hack and the delay (for a
new feed) isn't that long.

I may be looking for a new solution anyway .. an ancient request makes
it impossible to process modern feed/post data.

http://code.google.com/p/google-ajax-apis/issues/detail?id=88

Thanks again for your help

Chris

On Jan 22, 1:08 pm, "Jeff S (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> How long is the update delay that you are seeing? Your intuition is
> very good, when we have cached data but it is old we will in some
> cases return the cached data so that the response is timely and also
> kick off a background request to update the cache. For this reason you
> might not see new content for a few seconds depending on how long it
> takes to fetch and process the feed from the content's server. If you
> could send me the URL for this feed I'd be happy take a closer look.
>
> Also, in regards to your last question, the current maximum for
> historical entries is 250.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Jan 22, 7:54 am, SV Billabong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
>
> > I'm still having delays on feed updates..
>
> > I usually have to load a feed a couple of times before it "refreshes"
> > with the latest content.
>
> > The feedfetcher doesn't seem to poll for new data.. it's as if the API
> > call triggers the update check (but returns cached data) which doesn't
> > appear until the page is reloaded (later).
>
> > On Jan 7, 9:15 pm, SV Billabong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks Jeff,
>
> > > Is it possible to get more than 250 entries?
>
> > > On Jan 4, 4:40 pm, "Jeff S (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Chris,
>
> > > > The feeds system does take into account the caching information
> > > > provided in the HTTP headers for your RSS/Atom feed. So if for example
> > > > there is a blog post which the headers say, for example, can be cached
> > > > for a couple of months, then they may not be updated before then, so
> > > > recent changes might not be picked up. Currently the server doesn't
> > > > pass along any cache-control headers which the client might send,
> > > > which means there isn't a mechanism for the client to invalidate the
> > > > cache. You may have to wait for the item to outlive the cache time
> > > > before it would be refetched. If you are concerned about edits not
> > > > showing up, perhaps you could set a shorter cache time on more
> > > > frequently updated items and use longer cache settings for posts which
> > > > are going to be updated less often.
>
> > > > Thank you,
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 8:47 am, SV Billabong <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Thanks Jeremy..
>
> > > > > Can someone from Google clarify? I can't base a project around "should
> > > > > (theoretically)"!!
>
> > > > > Also is there anyway to update the cache (for changed entries)? An
> > > > > automatic check would be great but a force update mode would work too.
>
> > > > > An example would be a wordpress blog with typically 10 entries in the
> > > > > feed. The user can change the feed length temporarily, would the new
> > > > > updated entries be re-cached or would the old content remain?
>
> > > > > Thanks
>
> > > > > Chris
>
> > > > > On Dec 28 2009, 9:34 am, Jeremy Geerdes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The AJAX Feeds API depends on the same FeedFetcher bot which caches 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > feeds for Google Reader. So if you load something in Reader, it 
> > > > > > should  
> > > > > > (theoretically) be cached in the Feeds API.
>
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> > > > > > On Dec 28, 2009, at 8:32 AM, SV Billabong wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Does Google have a single feed database or is the AJAX feed 
> > > > > > > controlled
> > > > > > > separately?
>
> > > > > > > I'm interested in historical entries and wondering if loading the 
> > > > > > > feed
> > > > > > > in Google Reader also "stores" these historical entries for the 
> > > > > > > AJAX
> > > > > > > feed extraction.
>
> > > > > > > Will the feed be constantly updated (daily?) or does a AJAX feed 
> > > > > > > based
> > > > > > > utility need to be run in order to trigger a fetch in order to 
> > > > > > > store
> > > > > > > entries?
>
> > > > > > > Thanks
>
> > > > > > > Chris
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 19, 9:52 am, SV Billabong <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Thanks Jeff..
>
> > > > > > >> Can you let us know here when it rolls out?
>
> > > > > > >> On Dec 18, 1:09 pm, "Jeff S (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>> Yes during debugging I was able to update the two feeds that 
> > > > > > >>> were
> > > > > > >>> reported in this thread. A more permanent solution should be 
> > > > > > >>> rolled
> > > > > > >>> out in our system shortly.
>
> > > > > > >>> Happy coding,
>
> > > > > > >>> Jeff
>
> > > > > > >>> On Dec 17, 5:23 pm, braiiins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>>> Not sure if you found the problem, but it's updated! Thanks!
>
> > > > > > >>>> On Dec 16, 12:18 pm, "Jeff S (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>>>> Yes this does seem like a bug and it is proving difficult to 
> > > > > > >>>>> track
> > > > > > >>>>> down. We've been working on this and I'll keep this thread 
> > > > > > >>>>> updated
> > > > > > >>>>> with progress. Apologies for the delay!
>
> > > > > > >>>>> Thank you,
>
> > > > > > >>>>> Jeff
>
> > > > > > >>>>> On Dec 14, 5:55 pm, braiiins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Any thoughts on my problem? It'll be 3 weeks tomorrow and it 
> > > > > > >>>>>>  
> > > > > > >>>>>> still
> > > > > > >>>>>> won't update. I do have over 1000 feed readers, so it's not  
> > > > > > >>>>>> that it's
> > > > > > >>>>>> not viewed enough.
>
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