IMHO it is not a good policy for GAE to abandon(?) services middle way instead of improving - enhancing those. ;-( Regards Nick
On Mar 23, 7:31 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > That sounds like a good idea. There's a good chance we'll change the quotas > for email sometime in the near future. When we do that it would make sense > for us to document that we do not suggest App Engine as a service for > sending large amounts of email, and for reliable email delivery, to look at > third party services. > > Ikai Lan > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Eric Ka Ka Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Ikai, > > > thx for your note. with this, we could better decide on which cases we > > would like to send emails through GAE and which we would like to use other > > external services. > > > and would it be more formally stated in any documents, or any guideline for > > these considerations be documented? if i'm a new GAE user, i would just use > > the email service straight forwardly without these considerations and > > background information. > > > - eric > > > On 23 March 2011 05:29, Ikai Lan (Google) <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers > >> sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be > >> encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this > >> functionality. > > >> Ikai Lan > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps. work good and > >>> solved our problems > > >>> sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the > >>> quality level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be > >>> classified as SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this > >>> suggestion to GAE team? > > >>> - eric > > >>> On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Wow, great idea! I have been having some delivery issues lately with > >>>> GAE and looking for an alternative. > > >>>> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and > >>>> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE! > > >>>> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > Hi Eric, > > >>>> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)? > > >>>> >http://aws.amazon.com/ses/ > > >>>> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES > >>>> you > >>>> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 > >>>> instance. > > >>>> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to > >>>> make sure > >>>> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES > >>>> would > >>>> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since > >>>> SES's > >>>> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their > >>>> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting. > > >>>> > Nick > > >>>> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > Hi Ernesto, > > >>>> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work. > > >>>> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to > >>>> their > >>>> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent > >>>> by us > >>>> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are > >>>> nothing > >>>> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that > >>>> actually > >>>> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution? > > >>>> > > regards, > >>>> > > eric > > >>>> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra <[email protected] > >>>> >wrote: > > >>>> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to > >>>> their > >>>> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again > >>>> > >> (for that users, at least). > > >>>> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find > >>>> another > >>>> > >> solution. > > >>>> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our > >>>> users > >>>> > >> through > >>>> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of > >>>> a > >>>> > >> > registered admin for the app. > > >>>> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service > >>>> > >> provider > >>>> > >> > (e.g. '[email protected]'), they would always automatically treat > >>>> these > >>>> > >> emails > >>>> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account > >>>> (if the > >>>> > >> user > >>>> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") > >>>> . in > >>>> > >> this > >>>> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages > >>>> (they > >>>> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox) > > >>>> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the > >>>> results > >>>> > >> are > >>>> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and > >>>> maybe > >>>> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to > >>>> like '@ > >>>> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '[email protected]' would regard all emails > >>>> sent from > >>>> > >> this > >>>> > >> > email server in GAE as spam. > > >>>> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other > >>>> causes? > >>>> > >> any > >>>> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email > >>>> to our > >>>> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) > >>>> thx in > >>>> > >> > advanced! > > >>>> > >> > - eric > > >>>> > >> -- > >>>> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups > >>>> > >> "Google App Engine" group. > >>>> > >> To post to this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> > >> [email protected]. > >>>> > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >>>> > > -- > >>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups > >>>> > > "Google App Engine" group. > >>>> > > To post to this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> > > [email protected]. > >>>> > > For more options, visit this group at > >>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Google App Engine" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Google App Engine" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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