It is insulting to suggest those opposed to $9/month are freeloaders and
expect google to do charity. The issue is not about having to pay 4x-5x. The
issue is about fairness.

For those who were already paying more than $4 a month, $9/month is a non
issue. For everybody else it is an issue. Nobody is suggesting $9/month is
evil for all appengine users. Maybe google doesn't want these <$4/month
guys. Fine.




On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Vinuth Madinur <[email protected]>wrote:

> I get 10 GB of EBS space for free on AWS. It is insane to think it is
> alright to pay $9 to be able to consume more than 5GB.
>
> For $10, you get 100 GB space on AWS. And for $10, you get ~59GB space on
> appengine. Now, how does it make any sense to pay minimum of $9 to be able
> to cross the 5GB free limit?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How about new Google's In App payment system? Looks promising.
>>
>>
>> Thing is, people want too much for free. $9 is less than you pay for
>> internet at home, hosting anything at Google is cheaper than putting
>> old PC in the basement :)
>>
>> I hope that going out of preview will mean even more tools and toys
>> for us. Better documentation, better plugins [how about working on
>> DataNucleus? current plugin is really really outdated]...
>> On May 19, 9:47 am, Jeff Schnitzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > You presume that my app has a web front end.  Most of the users of
>> > this particular app are iPhone clients, and the developer responsible
>> > for that code has moved on to other projects.
>> >
>> > ...and actually, there does seem to be a vast chasm between successful
>> > apps and unsuccessful ones.  I'm not entirely certain why.  It may
>> > partly be due to the fact that no payment system in the world lets you
>> > charge $0.50/mo.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > Anything getting enough traffic to cross the free barrier should be
>> able to
>> > > have a revenue stream.  Especially if you thought it was going to be a
>> > > commercial venture.  And this is cold hearted but if you have loyal
>> users
>> > > who are using the app that much and none of them will pony up $.50 a
>> > > month... That's rough.
>> >
>> > > The Reason I don't think anyone should complain about the $9 number is
>> that
>> > > anyone should be able to put Adsense on their app and make $9.
>> >
>> > > I may be biased, but I have an App that averages a penny a day right
>> now,
>> > > and generates $2500 a month in Adsense.  There has to be some economic
>> model
>> > > that works between my extreme and yours.
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: [email protected]
>> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff
>> Schnitzer
>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:10 AM
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: FAQ for out of preview pricing
>> changes
>> >
>> > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > >> Put some ads on it and it should get to the $9 a month.  Put a donate
>> > >> button on it.
>> >
>> > > It's never that simple, and certainly isn't in this case.
>> >
>> > > That said, Google certainly doesn't owe anyone a free service layer,
>> nor a
>> > > linear ramp-up to paid service.  And apps around the limit of the free
>> > > service tier are probably something to discourage since they actually
>> > > consume resources.  Still, I'm more likely to contribute
>> > > *some* money for my forlorn projects if the cost was not a
>> discontiguous
>> > > function.
>> >
>> > > Jeff
>> >
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