That's great!  I mis-read that comment before, and thought it had to do 
with a billing issue or High-replication datastore.  (Mos's question 
appeared to be about billing, and the response seemed to indicate something 
with the HRD - which we are not using HRD).

I'm glad that there is actually some work going in to this...

-Nathan

On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:35:27 PM UTC-6, Rick Mangi wrote:
>
> They have responded. Look at the last comment in the thread before yours. 
> I'm not trying to defend them by any means, I think the lack of response 
> from google in general is quite disturbing, but Ikai did reply finally 
> saying that they are working on it.
>
> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-4, toonetown wrote:
>>
>> Yes - we are still seeing problems too - I think it is ridiculous that we 
>> aren't hearing anything about the issue from Google...how they are planning 
>> on addressing it, etc.
>>
>> There are over 15 bugs that are similar to 
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133 - all 
>> have been logged in the past 2 weeks, so that tells me that *SOMETHING* is 
>> wrong...
>>
>> -Nathan
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:42:21 AM UTC-6, Mos wrote:
>>>
>>> Problem still exists: High latency and a significant number of requests 
>>> fail or result in uncontrolled creation of new instances.
>>>
>>> GAE customers complain and complain for days.  It seems like many 
>>> website have to accept that the 500-error is an integral feature of the GAE 
>>> run-time.
>>> Even worse:  The broken platform leads to increase usage of instances 
>>> and therefore leads to higher costs for paying customer.
>>>
>>> No communication from Google; no feedback on the mailing list; no status 
>>> updates on the issue tracker. 
>>> Instead a always green status:   http://code.google.com/status/appengine    
>>>  
>>> (I think the GAE community needs to develop a crowed sources status page to 
>>> get a picture what's really is going on)
>>>
>>> That makes me crazy.  I saw many platforms and business support forums 
>>> the last years, but never encountered such an ignorance regarding custom 
>>> complains. 
>>>
>>> The only official response I saw, was the "Escalated your issue to the 
>>> reliability team" in one of the related issues:
>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133 
>>>
>>> So, 'realiability team' what's going on? How is the status?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > What is your application id?
>>>>
>>>> krisen-talk    (www.krisentalk.de)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Feel free to open a production issue
>>>>
>>>> There is already an issue from someone else (following this thread a 
>>>> lot of people are affected):
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133
>>>>
>>>> Johan, what's going on with GAE the last days?  It doesn't feel like a 
>>>> PaaS in production mode.
>>>> Perhaps Google should reintroduce the Beta status. ;)  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Johan Euphrosine <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is your application id?
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to open a production issue, if you want to investigate this 
>>>>> offthread:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Mos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same thing the last minutes on our app (HRD, Java, Low-Traffic, one 
>>>>>> instance, no new deployment, simple page just hitting MemCache):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service 
>>>>>> your request."   -->  User sees 500er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GAE-Team, what is going on the last days?  In my opinion the Google 
>>>>>> App Engine is unreliable and looks more like a alpha- or beta- 
>>>>>> cloudenvrionment....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please Google share you analysis with us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Mos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/3/13 Sébastien Tromp <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same thing here, since around an hour ago:
>>>>>>> AppID: fiveorbsgame & fiveorbsgame-test
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Miroslav Genov <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm encountering the same issue with HR app. The spike got started 
>>>>>>>> in about ~1 hour from now. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AppID: cmsevobg
>>>>>>>> Datastore: HR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:36:38 AM UTC+2, Richard Watson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In case you're keeping track of issues thinking it's generally 
>>>>>>>>> cleared up:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm on HR and have noticed higher latencies (couple seconds 
>>>>>>>>> instead of e.g. 300ms) lately and sometimes higher error rates (a few 
>>>>>>>>> instead of 0-3). Yesterday over about 6 hours I got a ton of 
>>>>>>>>> 60-second 
>>>>>>>>> requests that threw 500's with accompanying messages [1], usually on 
>>>>>>>>> memcache sets hitting a deadline exceeded.  Also, over the last 
>>>>>>>>> couple 
>>>>>>>>> weeks I've been running 3 instances permanently despite sometimes 
>>>>>>>>> shutting 
>>>>>>>>> them down manually.  Usually I get by on one just fine with bursts of 
>>>>>>>>> 2 or 
>>>>>>>>> 3.  I've noticed that one instance serves the majority of traffic 
>>>>>>>>> with the 
>>>>>>>>> other two serving maybe 50 requests over many hours, so the shutdown 
>>>>>>>>> isn't 
>>>>>>>>> aggressive enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This request caused a new process to be started for your 
>>>>>>>>> application..."
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> "A problem was encountered with the process that handled this 
>>>>>>>>> request, causing it to exit" in the same request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> App-id: 2dumo-hr
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:36:38 AM UTC+2, Richard Watson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In case you're keeping track of issues thinking it's generally 
>>>>>>>>> cleared up:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm on HR and have noticed higher latencies (couple seconds 
>>>>>>>>> instead of e.g. 300ms) lately and sometimes higher error rates (a few 
>>>>>>>>> instead of 0-3). Yesterday over about 6 hours I got a ton of 
>>>>>>>>> 60-second 
>>>>>>>>> requests that threw 500's with accompanying messages [1], usually on 
>>>>>>>>> memcache sets hitting a deadline exceeded.  Also, over the last 
>>>>>>>>> couple 
>>>>>>>>> weeks I've been running 3 instances permanently despite sometimes 
>>>>>>>>> shutting 
>>>>>>>>> them down manually.  Usually I get by on one just fine with bursts of 
>>>>>>>>> 2 or 
>>>>>>>>> 3.  I've noticed that one instance serves the majority of traffic 
>>>>>>>>> with the 
>>>>>>>>> other two serving maybe 50 requests over many hours, so the shutdown 
>>>>>>>>> isn't 
>>>>>>>>> aggressive enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This request caused a new process to be started for your 
>>>>>>>>> application..."
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> "A problem was encountered with the process that handled this 
>>>>>>>>> request, causing it to exit" in the same request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> App-id: 2dumo-hr
>>>>>>>>>
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> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-4, toonetown wrote:
>>
>> Yes - we are still seeing problems too - I think it is ridiculous that we 
>> aren't hearing anything about the issue from Google...how they are planning 
>> on addressing it, etc.
>>
>> There are over 15 bugs that are similar to 
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133 - all 
>> have been logged in the past 2 weeks, so that tells me that *SOMETHING* is 
>> wrong...
>>
>> -Nathan
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:42:21 AM UTC-6, Mos wrote:
>>>
>>> Problem still exists: High latency and a significant number of requests 
>>> fail or result in uncontrolled creation of new instances.
>>>
>>> GAE customers complain and complain for days.  It seems like many 
>>> website have to accept that the 500-error is an integral feature of the GAE 
>>> run-time.
>>> Even worse:  The broken platform leads to increase usage of instances 
>>> and therefore leads to higher costs for paying customer.
>>>
>>> No communication from Google; no feedback on the mailing list; no status 
>>> updates on the issue tracker. 
>>> Instead a always green status:   http://code.google.com/status/appengine    
>>>  
>>> (I think the GAE community needs to develop a crowed sources status page to 
>>> get a picture what's really is going on)
>>>
>>> That makes me crazy.  I saw many platforms and business support forums 
>>> the last years, but never encountered such an ignorance regarding custom 
>>> complains. 
>>>
>>> The only official response I saw, was the "Escalated your issue to the 
>>> reliability team" in one of the related issues:
>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133 
>>>
>>> So, 'realiability team' what's going on? How is the status?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Mos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > What is your application id?
>>>>
>>>> krisen-talk    (www.krisentalk.de)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Feel free to open a production issue
>>>>
>>>> There is already an issue from someone else (following this thread a 
>>>> lot of people are affected):
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7133
>>>>
>>>> Johan, what's going on with GAE the last days?  It doesn't feel like a 
>>>> PaaS in production mode.
>>>> Perhaps Google should reintroduce the Beta status. ;)  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Johan Euphrosine <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What is your application id?
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to open a production issue, if you want to investigate this 
>>>>> offthread:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Mos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same thing the last minutes on our app (HRD, Java, Low-Traffic, one 
>>>>>> instance, no new deployment, simple page just hitting MemCache):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service 
>>>>>> your request."   -->  User sees 500er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GAE-Team, what is going on the last days?  In my opinion the Google 
>>>>>> App Engine is unreliable and looks more like a alpha- or beta- 
>>>>>> cloudenvrionment....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please Google share you analysis with us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Mos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/3/13 Sébastien Tromp <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same thing here, since around an hour ago:
>>>>>>> AppID: fiveorbsgame & fiveorbsgame-test
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Miroslav Genov <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm encountering the same issue with HR app. The spike got started 
>>>>>>>> in about ~1 hour from now. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AppID: cmsevobg
>>>>>>>> Datastore: HR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:36:38 AM UTC+2, Richard Watson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In case you're keeping track of issues thinking it's generally 
>>>>>>>>> cleared up:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm on HR and have noticed higher latencies (couple seconds 
>>>>>>>>> instead of e.g. 300ms) lately and sometimes higher error rates (a few 
>>>>>>>>> instead of 0-3). Yesterday over about 6 hours I got a ton of 
>>>>>>>>> 60-second 
>>>>>>>>> requests that threw 500's with accompanying messages [1], usually on 
>>>>>>>>> memcache sets hitting a deadline exceeded.  Also, over the last 
>>>>>>>>> couple 
>>>>>>>>> weeks I've been running 3 instances permanently despite sometimes 
>>>>>>>>> shutting 
>>>>>>>>> them down manually.  Usually I get by on one just fine with bursts of 
>>>>>>>>> 2 or 
>>>>>>>>> 3.  I've noticed that one instance serves the majority of traffic 
>>>>>>>>> with the 
>>>>>>>>> other two serving maybe 50 requests over many hours, so the shutdown 
>>>>>>>>> isn't 
>>>>>>>>> aggressive enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This request caused a new process to be started for your 
>>>>>>>>> application..."
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> "A problem was encountered with the process that handled this 
>>>>>>>>> request, causing it to exit" in the same request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> App-id: 2dumo-hr
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:36:38 AM UTC+2, Richard Watson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In case you're keeping track of issues thinking it's generally 
>>>>>>>>> cleared up:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm on HR and have noticed higher latencies (couple seconds 
>>>>>>>>> instead of e.g. 300ms) lately and sometimes higher error rates (a few 
>>>>>>>>> instead of 0-3). Yesterday over about 6 hours I got a ton of 
>>>>>>>>> 60-second 
>>>>>>>>> requests that threw 500's with accompanying messages [1], usually on 
>>>>>>>>> memcache sets hitting a deadline exceeded.  Also, over the last 
>>>>>>>>> couple 
>>>>>>>>> weeks I've been running 3 instances permanently despite sometimes 
>>>>>>>>> shutting 
>>>>>>>>> them down manually.  Usually I get by on one just fine with bursts of 
>>>>>>>>> 2 or 
>>>>>>>>> 3.  I've noticed that one instance serves the majority of traffic 
>>>>>>>>> with the 
>>>>>>>>> other two serving maybe 50 requests over many hours, so the shutdown 
>>>>>>>>> isn't 
>>>>>>>>> aggressive enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "This request caused a new process to be started for your 
>>>>>>>>> application..."
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> "A problem was encountered with the process that handled this 
>>>>>>>>> request, causing it to exit" in the same request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> App-id: 2dumo-hr
>>>>>>>>>
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