FWIW, we just got the "your credit card was declined" message from GAE even
though there is nothing wrong with our card.

Submitted a complaint to the billing form.

Something is broken.

Jeff


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Jim Gilliam <[email protected]> wrote:

> Brian,
>
> The UI is good.  The problem is that transactions are not completing.
>
> When the first ACH debit to my checking account was declined on August
> 8th, after working for months, I called the bank.  They told me that no
> such ACH debit was presented to them and they declined nothing.  The
> message from GOOGLE said that no reason was given by the bank.  The bank
> said they always give a reason for any decline.  And since GOOGLE did not
> have a reason for the decline, I believe this means that GOOGLE has a
> serious glitch in their system.
>
> After this, I then initiated manual payments using a DEBIT card; in fact,
> several different DEBIT and CREDIT cards.  I quickly discovered these
> transactions would stay pending for a few days and then disappear.  The
> bank indicated that GOOGLE initiated the transaction, putting the money on
> hold and the transaction in PENDING state; however, the bank said, GOOGLE
> never sent the finalized transaction so the pending disappeared and the
> money was released back into the account.
>
> Right now, I am desperately trying to get a transaction to complete so
> that my GAE account has a credit.  I believe eventually the GOOGLE system
> will figure out that these transaction did not complete properly and
> disable my GAE account.  That would be a very serious issue for me and my
> clients.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Brian Retford <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hey James,
>>
>> Apologies you're having so much difficulty with the payment systems.
>> We're hard at work on multiple fronts to improve the user experience in
>> that area.
>>
>> I took a quick look at your account and most of your forms of payment
>> seem correctly setup, though one bank account appears to be declining our
>> attempts to send test deposits. Hopefully our support people have been in
>> contact to explain that (does the UI make it reasonably clear that this is
>> what's going on?). It appears that we're actually getting rejections from
>> the bank when attempting to do test deposits (and that we're actually
>> communicating with the bank's gateway). I'll also point out, in what's
>> hopefully reassurring, that GAE now shares the same billing backend as
>> adwords, and that, in general, we haven't ran into very many system caused
>> FoP decline issues.
>>
>> I'd also like to point out that the system will automatically attempt to
>> charge your fallback options - you don't need to make manual payments.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:36:04 AM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:
>>
>>> The saga of a broken billing system continues ...
>>>
>>> A few days ago, I setup another checking account GAE billing; an account
>>> with Chase Bank (largest US bank I believe); the account has existed for 10
>>> years and used every day.  I received a GAE BILLING decline this morning ...
>>>
>>> We were unable to place a small test deposit in your bank account. This
>>> may have happened for several reasons:
>>>
>>>    1. Your bank account information was entered incorrectly.
>>>    2. Your bank account no longer exists.
>>>    3. Your bank account has a restriction against direct debiting.
>>>
>>> None of this is true.
>>>
>>> I suggest a fourth possibility ...
>>>
>>> 4. The GAE BILLING system is seriously broken and this failure is a GAE
>>> BILLING problem.  Try and let somebody know but you will notice there is no
>>> hint in this email has to go about doing that.  Perhaps, you could post
>>> something on a public forum to get your private billing issue resolve.  Or,
>>> maybe, just wait until GAE disables your account because you are unable to
>>> make a regular payment with the payment system.  At that point, you will
>>> have little choice except to sue somebody.
>>>
>>>
>>> I made a couple more one time payments using different methods of
>>> payment.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:
>>>
>>>> My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265
>>>>
>>>> Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and
>>>> returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.
>>>>
>>>> Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them
>>>> -- probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?
>>>>
>>>> Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking
>>>> account, four debit and/or credit cards.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is clearing.
>>>>
>>>> Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.
>>>>
>>>> The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they
>>>> disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the 
>>>> transactions.
>>>>
>>>> Sent two emails to [email protected] -- no response.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody from billing out there ?
>>>>
>>>>
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