On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:31:53 PM UTC+8, timh wrote:
>
> So based on a running cost less than 3% of revenue, then this app is 
> REALLY REALLY REALLY cheap.
>

Sorry, 3% is just the average value for the hosting world. It is not cheap 
at all, it is just general.
I know many websites the much lower value than 3%. 

>
> I don't have true pageviews because as I said its 80% ajax transactions, 
> so new template rendering etc.... so not a comparable measure.  But just to 
> please you on a typical day there is around 2200 pageviews , but between 5 
> and 10 times that in terms of ajax transactions (which aren't monitored by 
> analytics), but to be honest it's not something I really monitor closely as 
> it not particularly important. 
>

Ok, you have 10,000 requests. $2 per day means you need 48 F1 instance 
hours.
I know you don't like the advertisement. But GAE official never says GAE is 
not capable for this model.
2200 pageviews means about $3 advertisement revenue. 
If there is no the free hours, you would pay google $5.
The net profit is -$2.
(ok, ok, I know you are a rich man, you get a better model. Here, I just 
descript the situation from the view of common sense)
 

>
> Unless you compare features of a service, meeting a minimal base line for 
> comparison any comparison is meaningless. You know apples and oranges.
>
> I run another site that derives absolutely no direct revenue, it is their 
> solely to get get people to visit a bricks and motor shop, and the $2 a day 
> that is costing
> is very cheap as all the advertising we run is Adwords (adwords is 
> expensive) and the site running costs.  Yes I could run it on Digital Ocean 
> or AWS small instance for probably cheaper, but then I have to look after 
> infrastructure webstack/database, I do not have the time or inclination to 
> do that.  So my measure of cheap is completely different to yours. 
> I certainly don't measure the cost or quality of the service or the value 
> of the outcomes in terms of pageviews per dollar  (at least not directly)
>
> So I am not really going to bother with this discussion any more, in your 
> opinion GAE  is not cheap, in my opinion by all the metrics that I am 
> interested and the applications I run/develop on appengine it is. Does this 
> mean I would run all new projects on appengine - absolutely not, I would 
> pick the best (as much as I could) tool for the job.
>

What the data all you provide exactly prove GAE is expensive!
Your sense is not a typical common sense.
Bill Gates will still think GAE is cheap if the F1 instance is charged with 
$1000 per day.
 

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