By serene, I mean development should be fun and simple

You should probably start 
here: 
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/php/tools/using-local-server

Finding dev_appserver.py is going to be a bit challenging tho, If you were 
on Linux, this would probably be the way to 
go: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/php/download#php_linux

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 1:16:29 AM UTC+3, Richard Bernstein wrote:
>
> I am glad you added this comment. I am not sure what you mean by serene 
> manner? What I think you just said (and tell me if I misunderstood) is 
> develop with your favorite sdk on your local pc, and when you are done use 
> command line tools to upload it and set it up. In my case my code is php 
> under Windows so I should find and use App Engine PHP SDK for Windows to 
> upload and configure. Did I get this right? And not bother with phpstorm 
> for app engine?
>
>
> On May 18, 2018, at 17:54, Kaan Soral <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>
> Not really on topic, but as some sane and simplifying advice - It's best 
> to move away from IDE's like Eclipse
>
> Their purpose is to simplify development, but from your experiences too, 
> it's clear that they don't deliver on their promises, and complicate things 
> instead
>
> I'd suggest you to write the code with whatever IDE you prefer, then use 
> the command line tools separately in a serene manner
>
> My personal choice is the App Engine Python SDK for Linux, even though I'm 
> on macOS (it includes pure code, no installer, just pure python code, 
> granted things are usually more complicated for Java, but the same 
> experience might apply) - You might give it a try, and if it doesn't work, 
> you can always go back to Eclipse
>
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