after more investigation it seems that the xml parser on the google
server is EXTREMELY picky. at least with fiddler i can effectivly
debug.

I think for now i can make a go at this with all the help and tools you
provided. thanks for all the help and time as you are my only resource
for this project.

take care, Andy

p.s if i get stuck again i will post here hopefully this will help
others stuck in the same bind


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