I totally agree with Paul ... we should test this on our own, not relying on the result of our attempt.
Furthermore, it is more tense this way, ... not knowing the result until end of contest. Best, -Lego On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Vinay Julme <[email protected]> wrote: > Well I guess we can resubmit in those 8 mins. So if you want to improve > your algorithm you can use the remaining mins when you feel that your code > won't run in given 8 mins. > > Its very tough but still its possible. > > Vinay Julme > ************** > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Paul Smith <[email protected]>wrote: > >> In real life, when someone asks you for an algorithm to solve a given >> problem, do you think they have a judge program to check your results? >> >> No! In the real world your answers will be used as if they are >> correct, you will do testing to satisfy yourself that your answer is >> correct. And if your algorithm goes wrong you will get at best bug >> reports that hurt your reputation, at worst you will crash the space >> shuttle :-) >> >> If you think your algorithm might be wrong or too slow, test it. >> Randomly create your own worst case large input, either from scratch >> or by pertirbing the small input, does it run in 6 minutes or not? >> Identify corner cases that might trip your algorithm up, and run them >> in tests. >> >> You talk like your destiny is not in your own hands! >> >> On Friday, May 21, 2010, Dhruva Sagar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I happen to agree with Deebashis Roy here.I would like to be able to >> attempt for the large input several times as well.I am fine with having a >> maximum limit on that though, like if you can allow only 5 attempts or >> something of that sort, that would be fine too. >> > >> > >> > But overall considering the fact that I am not one of the top coders out >> there :), I would really like to get more chances to try the large input >> once I know that my algorithm isn't great and there is scope of improvement, >> or if I know that I have to convert my algorithm to a faster language like >> C/C++. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:27, TripleM <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > I wouldn't interpret it that way at all. It makes perfect sense to me >> > - it is extremely easy to have a tiny bug in your algorithm that >> > invalidates your entire effort. These tiny mistakes are picked up in >> > the small submissions; once you have got that correct you are expected >> > to be able to solve the large input without any further help. >> > >> > On May 21, 5:25 pm, Debashis Roy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> The format of the contest doesn't look very fair, given the fact that a >> person can submit the small data set multiple times in case of incorrect >> result but cannot re-submit the large data set in case of time outs. >> >> >> >> To me, the small data set is more to check the accuracy of the >> algorithm whereas the large data set is to check the efficiency of the >> algorithm. >> >> >> >> If that is true then what gcj is saying translates to "we will allow >> you to correct your algorithm if you have an incorrect algorithm, but we >> will not allow you to improve upon your algorithm if you have an inefficient >> algorithm!!!" >> >> >> >> Any particular reason for this? :-) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Debashis >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Climate, controversies and the changing signatures of naturehttp:// >> green.in.msn.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "google-codejam" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >> groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "google-codejam" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Thanks & Regards, >> > Dhruva Sagar. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "google-codejam" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> Paul Smith >> >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "google-codejam" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "google-codejam" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. > -- Fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge (Proverbs 1:7) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "google-codejam" group. 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