looks good! It's Daniel btw ;)
On Jun 24, 12:38 pm, "Patricia Goldweic" <pgoldw...@northwestern.edu>
wrote:
> After this discussion, I figured it would be best to list the 'bugs' that we
> found in this thread, so we can properly report them:
>
> 1- Modification/addition of acl entries through the apis SOMETIMES results
> in 'false' positives (that is, no error being reported by Google, but task
> was an actual failure). Two different cases were discussed in this thread:
> a) cases reported by David at the beginning of this thread AND b)
> 'non-existent account used in acl' case, reported by myself.
>
> 2- Modification/addition of acl entries through the apis SOMETIMES 'gets out
> of synch' with the Google Docs GUI (reported by me). More specifically, the
> GUI does not reflect all the programmatic additions/modifications even after
> a delay.
>
> I think that they deserve to be reported separately, and we may even think
> of reporting 1.a and 1.b separately (especially given that David knows the
> details of 1.a, and I know the details of 1.b :-)).
>
> Does this breakup make sense?
> -Patricia
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Google-Docs-Data-APIs@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:google-docs-data-a...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > Patricia Goldweic
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:15 PM
> > To: Google-Docs-Data-APIs@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [Google-Docs-Data-APIs] Re: The response from
> > modifying the ACL is returning false-positives
>
> > Interesting, that's also the way I was planning to use this
> > :-), since my app automatically provisions accounts. So the
> > acls were being added before the accounts got created, and
> > that's how I discovered the buggy behavior. I ended up
> > resorting to a work around that avoids adding acls for
> > non-existing accounts; they only get added now when the
> > accounts end up being provisioned.
>
> > -Patricia
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Google-Docs-Data-APIs@googlegroups.com
> > > [mailto:google-docs-data-a...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > > Marashlian
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:14 PM
> > > To: Google Docs Data APIs
> > > Subject: [Google-Docs-Data-APIs] Re: The response from
> > modifying the
> > > ACL is returning false-positives
>
> > > At least with the way that I'm using it... (unless the
> > email is in a
> > > bad format) I think Google shouldn't limit the ACL's
> > getting inserted
> > > in.
>
> > > For instance... I want to hire "Bob" next week, so I go
> > into my Google
> > > Docs account and enter b...@mycompany.com into all of my GDocs (from
> > > the UI). But b...@mycompany.com is not a Google account yet.
> > So I hire
> > > Bob next week, and tell him that his email is
> > b...@mycompany.com and he
> > > should go to google docs and create an account under that
> > name, cause
> > > he's already added to all of the company documentation.
>
> > > It seems like this is possible now, though it's spotty.
> > We're adding
> > > in potential Google Docs accounts from the API because at
> > first we're
> > > using the people's email addresses that I have in my database (at a
> > > later point, they have the option to change it to a preferred Google
> > > Email) then if that user wants to interact with the google
> > doc that is
> > > organized in my system, they would click on the link for
> > the file, and
> > > it would push them to the document.
>
> > > now, if you don't have a google docs account with
> > b...@mycompany.com,
> > > that's where Google Docs Shines! They just prompt you to create an
> > > account with that email. It doesn't matter if it's a gmail
> > account or
> > > not.
>
> > > This is how I would like it to work... in my testing it
> > does, but not
> > > 100% of the time...
>
> > > On Jun 24, 10:55 am, "Patricia Goldweic"
> > <pgoldw...@northwestern.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Eric,
> > > > I agree with your statement. However, if these acls get
> > > added for any
> > > > reason (e.g. a program that is not verifying that they
> > > correspond to
> > > > valid users), and they show up in the Docs GUI, you would
> > > expect them
> > > > to work. I think I'd much rather get a failure message
> > from Google
> > > > whenever one tries to add them, so that they wouldn't be
> > > propagated to the GUI in the first place.
> > > > Would you rather not see this posted as a bug then?
> > > > -Patricia
>
> > > > Patricia Goldweic
> > > > pgoldw...@northwestern.edu
>
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Google-Docs-Data-APIs@googlegroups.com
> > > > > [mailto:google-docs-data-a...@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Eric
> > > > > (Google)
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:41 PM
> > > > > To: Google Docs Data APIs
> > > > > Subject: [Google-Docs-Data-APIs] Re: The response from
> > > modifying the
> > > > > ACL is returning false-positives
>
> > > > > Well, you should only be adding
> > > > > ACLs that correspond to gDocs users.
> > > > > A combination of anything else may appear to work, but
> > I wouldn't
> > > > > trust it.
>
> > > > > Eric
>
> > > > > On Jun 24, 10:02 am, Daniel Marashlian
> > > <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > please go ahead :)
>
> > > > > > I haven't done too much testing after the fact. I'm going
> > > > > to do some
> > > > > > testing on that scenario you just described.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 24, 7:33 am, "Patricia Goldweic"
> > > > > > <pgoldw...@northwestern.edu>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I've seen this behavior too. In fact, I concluded that,
> > > > > if you add
> > > > > > > (through the api) an acl entry for a (not yet)existent
> > > > > account, you
> > > > > > > get no errors at the time you are doing this.
> > However, if the
> > > > > > > account gets later created, those acls which should have
> > > > > been placed
> > > > > > > in the feed in the previous step, are really not
> > > working. This
> > > > > > > is consistent with the behavior you just described
> > > David, mainly
> > > > > > > the fact that non-existent account acls ACTUALLY DO
> > FAIL when
> > > > > they are
> > > > > > > added (and therefore are not really being added), but
> > > > > this is not being reported by Google.
> > > > > > > I think this definitely deserves a bug report. Are you
> > > > > going to file
> > > > > > > this one David, or should I do it?
>
> > > > > > > Patricia Goldweic
> > > > > > > pgoldw...@northwestern.edu
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Google-Docs-Data-APIs@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > [mailto:google-docs-data-a...@googlegroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of
> > > > > > > > Daniel Marashlian
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:42 PM
> > > > > > > > To: Google Docs Data APIs
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Google-Docs-Data-APIs] Re: The response from
> > > > > modifying
> > > > > > > > the ACL is returning false-positives
>
> > > > > > > > to make it even more confusing, I've been testing
> > > "bad emails"
> > > > > > > > like kjhasdf...@pelotonics.com and they show up on the
> > > > > UI but not
> > > > > > > > in the ACL list... hmmm.
>
> > > > > > > > Fun times :)
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 3:31 pm, Eric Bidelman
> > > <api.e...@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well, Patricia said these show up in the feed but not
> > > > > the Docs
> > > > > > > > > UI. You're saying they show up in neither. I'm
> > a little
> > > > > > > > > confused that there's different behavior across
> > the board.
>
> > > > > > > > > Eric
>
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Daniel Marashlian
> > > > > > > > <daniel...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Wait... I'm confused :)
>
> > > > > > > > > > So I try to add a user's email to a document, at
> > > > > least when I
> > > > > > > > > > use the batch processing, it reports back a
> > success but
> > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > I do a GET
> > > > > > > > > > on
>
> > > "http://docs.google.com/feeds/acl/private/full/[docType]%3A[docID]";
> > > > > > > > > > and check through the XML for the gAcl:scope that
> > > > > user's Email
> > > > > > > > > > is not in the list.
>
> > > > > > > > > > How is that consistently working?
>
> > > > > > > > > > maybe I'm confused on the separation between
> > the ACL and
> > > > > > > > Google Docs.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 1:27 pm, Eric Bidelman
> > > > > <api.e...@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the quick info folks.
> > > > > > > > > > > It sounds like the adding ACLs through the API
> > > > > > > > consistently works
> > > > > > > > > > > (e.g. the correct results show up when
> > > querying the ACL
> > > > > > > > feed), but
> > > > > > > > > > > they're not propagated to Google Docs. Can
> > one of you
> > > > > > > > open a bug
> > > > > > > > > > > for this with the detailed info in this thread.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Eric
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Daniel Marashlian
> > > > > > > > > > ><daniel...@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eric,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The "single" feed seems to be working more
> > > > > consistently,
> > > > > > > > > > > > but when it fails it doesn't tell me anything
> > > > > in the response.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > this is the XML I'm using (maybe I'm doing
> > > it wrong):
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > POST'ing it to: "
> > > > > > > > > >http://docs.google.com/feeds/acl/private/full/document
> > > > > > > > > > > > %3Adg7wvvh9_51fjcscsvz"
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > XML:
> > > > > > > > > > > > "<entry
>
> > > xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom'xmlns:gAcl='http://
> > > > > > > > > > > > schemas.google.com/acl/2007'> <category
>
> > > > > scheme='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#kind'term='http:/
> > > > > > > > > > > > / schemas.google.com/acl/2007#accessRule'/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > <gAcl:role value='writer'/> <gAcl:scope
> > type='user'
> > > > > > > > > > > > value='tmal...@pelotonics.com'/> </entry>"
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a response
>
> ...
>
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