Hi Thor,

will there be an option to get streetview and geocoder without the
google map?

I could easily switch the main map of my application to an open source
solution but I would like to continiue using googles geocoding and
streetview.

Thanx
-s.

On 31 Okt., 10:20, abanjo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Thor,
> So according to what you said only the 0,35% of the sites is over the
> 25.000 limits.
> This is a big surprise for me considering that 1 map load = 1
> transaction!
> So we have 2 options:
>
> 1) the 99,65% of the sites don't consider the maps as an important
> feature for their core business.
> 2) the 99,65% of the sites have found a way to offer a great map
> service without go over this limit. I'm very curios to know how!
>
> My site is based on maps. I'm offering a tool to calculate an
> itinerary with public transportations for my city. So i can't take off
> the maps. I don't believe that i'm over the limit, but sure i'm quite
> near it. Before this news i hoped that my site will grow in the
> future, now i hoping that it remain stable! (is not this absurd?)
> I'm happy to know to have a site that is near the 1% of the "top
> player" of Google maps, but i can assure you that i don't gain from
> that enough to pay for the 99% of the developers.
> I think that this quota is too low, and don't take in consideration
> the sites that are focused on maps. I think that the heavy users of
> the maps are the most important for Google. They are developers that
> spend a lot of time on your API, give you a feedback, have helped to
> grow this product... and now are the ones that must pay! For
> example... i'm very interested in styled map, fusion tables ecc... but
> now... why spend my time to integrate them if i know that these are
> absolutely anti-economic?
>
> Do not get me wrong, i'am grateful to Google for the support in this
> years with its great services... so as long as i can i will try to
> continue to use your maps. If i will find a way to gain enough to pay
> my costs, i will be happy to give my contribution to the community.
>
> Thanks
> Davide
>
> On 31 Ott, 09:08, "Thor Mitchell (Google Employee)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Monday, 31 October 2011 01:48:26 UTC+11, John Coryat wrote:
>
> > > We should be given a choice of shutting the site down when the 25k limit
> > > is reached or paying to keep it online.
>
> > You will have that choice. You can set a Maximum Billable Limit, which is
> > the maximum amount you are willing to pay per day. If you exceed that limit
> > on any given day, then the site will stop serving Maps for the rest of the
> > day. You can set that limit to be $0 if you wish.
>
> > > As stated by a previous poster, the cost of keeping the site up after the
> > > threshold is far greater than the ad revenue generated by the site.
> > > Shutting it down would be a negative to the users but the cost is so
> > > prohibitive that it's the only option as far as I can tell.
>
> > > Forcing us to pay without any other options is going to be painful.
> > > Writing a self monitoring system will require shutting off the maps before
> > > the threshold is reached to ensure a safety limit.
>
> > > It does seem a bit short sighted for Google to force map publishers with
> > > successful sites that run AdSense to shut down or be charged an excess of
> > > what AdSense can earn. Exempting AdSense users from the limit would seem 
> > > to
> > > be a good business practice. Another option might be to charge these map
> > > publishers the same rate that AdSense generates when the threshold is
> > > exceeded making the sites revenue neutral for that overage and allowing
> > > them to stay online instead of forcing a shutdown.
>
> > We looked into this, but even if we took 100% of Ad Unit revenue from
> > sites, we would not generate enough revenue to cover the cost of serving
> > those sites, given the average RPM of the Ad Unit. Plus it's a goal of the
> > pricing not just to cover the costs of the affected sites, but also the
> > costs of serving the sites that are not paying usage (ie. it's the revenue
> > from the 0.35% of sites that are paying that secures the future of the
> > service for the 99.65% of sites that are not). So if we were to offer a
> > choice between showing the Ad Unit and paying, we would need to both
> > increase the RPM of the Ad Unit somehow (eg. show more ads), and also force
> > the Ad Unit on every site unless they opted to pay. I'm pretty confident
> > such a policy would have generated several orders of magnitude more anger
> > amongst the developer community than just asking the top 0.35% of sites (by
> > map volume) to pay at the rates published. Not to mention the fact that the
> > Ad Unit is not suitable for small maps, or any non-JS map (eg.
> > Static, Flash, Street View Image, etc.).
>
> > Many thanks,
>
> > Thor.
>
> > > -John Coryat

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