Hi Again, I see your point Sam. The only problem is I can't code in C++, and the plans that I have for this application would go well beyond the capability of me learning within a few days.
Also it would mean I would not be able to Bug Fix my own application for a while and would have to rely on others doing it for me which could be pretty dangerous. I don't mind you creating a C++ version of my App, at the moment I am creating a new GUI interface for the Application. I will not be able to help you create the C++ version, since I am going to have to start learning C++ real fast. I am going to put up some Future designs for the application including an example Preview of the applications dialog window in the wave : https://wave.google.com/wave/?pli=1#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BbTKibG6gA.2 . Anyway, I will put up the current source of the application within the next couple of hours. I wouldn't mind this all being done in C++, but I have to be careful I start going into something I can't do. I don't want to ruin myself. Regards, Oliver Baker On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Sam Osborne <[email protected]>wrote: > 1: Ok. > > 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it. If > you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be able > to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux. > I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure about > work and what their C++ equivalents are. > It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or > Linux, where some Wave users are. You could TRY getting it to run on AIR, > but I'm not sure how that works :S > You may want to look at C++ For > Dummies<http://samosborneonline.co.cc/Downloads/C++_For_Dummies.pdf> > > > 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]> > >> Hi Sam, >> *Answer to your First Question:* >> >> If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission by >> Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of the Google Wave >> Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google. >> >> Which means that there is no current API for what I have done. >> >> *Answer to your second question.* >> >> I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my source >> code???? Seems pretty harsh Sam. >> >> The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the >> part which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my applications >> source to you that you currently want would be near pointless >> >> The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since >> parts of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code. >> But I am trusting people not to pull a fast one on me. >> >> Hope that answers your questions. >> >> Regards, >> Oliver Baker >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things: >>> >>> - How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're >>> in (Java/Python I think) to VB? >>> - Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate >>> it into C++, and then get it to run in Linux.. >>> >>> >>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Hi Sam, >>>> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17, >>>> still studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously >>>> C/C++). >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What language is it made in? >>>>> >>>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> I have good news!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my >>>>>> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be >>>>>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Oliver Baker >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the >>>>>>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to >>>>>>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites >>>>>>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful >>>>>>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rich >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that >>>>>>> I'm not a >>>>>>> > lawyer... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to >>>>>>> "modify, >>>>>>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service >>>>>>> unless >>>>>>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially >>>>>>> reverse >>>>>>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You >>>>>>> can read >>>>>>> > more of the policies at: >>>>>>> http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content >>>>>>> -- which >>>>>>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to >>>>>>> build this >>>>>>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to >>>>>>> consider, >>>>>>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol >>>>>>> -- but >>>>>>> > things are early there at the moment. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > - pamela >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer < >>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) < >>>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> Hey Oliver- >>>>>>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep >>>>>>> the thread >>>>>>> > >> in the forum. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give >>>>>>> you a >>>>>>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to >>>>>>> "scrape" the HTML >>>>>>> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That >>>>>>> is why >>>>>>> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use >>>>>>> content. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search >>>>>>> results would >>>>>>> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those >>>>>>> pages that >>>>>>> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data >>>>>>> API to >>>>>>> > >> distribute a program like this. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> - pamela >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> How dare you Andrey! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding >>>>>>> the last >>>>>>> > >>> Wave server you selected. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the >>>>>>> Google Wave >>>>>>> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login >>>>>>> page. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or >>>>>>> right >>>>>>> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> > >>> your waves button. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your >>>>>>> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you >>>>>>> run exe's >>>>>>> > >>> you >>>>>>> > >>> > downloaded online? >>>>>>> > >>> > - Andrey >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? >>>>>>> There's nowhere >>>>>>> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > ~Scott~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. 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