Hey Oliver,

Did you use the Embed API to make this with it?

This is a great idea.

Thanks & God Bless,
Eric

On Oct 15, 3:49 pm, Sam Osborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1: Ok.
>
> 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it. If
> you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be able
> to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
> I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure about
> work and what their C++ equivalents are.
> It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac or
> Linux, where some Wave users are. You could TRY getting it to run on AIR,
> but I'm not sure how that works :S
> You may want to look at C++ For
> Dummies<http://samosborneonline.co.cc/Downloads/C++_For_Dummies.pdf>
>
> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
>
> > Hi Sam,
> > *Answer to your First Question:*
>
> > If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission by
> > Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of  the Google Wave
> > Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google.
>
> > Which means that there is no current API for what I have done.
>
> > *Answer to your second question.*
>
> > I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my source
> > code???? Seems pretty harsh Sam.
>
> > The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the
> > part which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my applications
> > source to you that you currently want would be near pointless
>
> > The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since parts
> > of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code. But I am
> > trusting people not to pull a fast one on me.
>
> > Hope that answers your questions.
>
> > Regards,
> > Oliver Baker
>
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:
>
> >>    - How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're in
> >>    (Java/Python I think) to VB?
> >>    - Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source, translate
> >>    it into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..
>
> >> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
>
> >>> Hi Sam,
> >>> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17,
> >>> still studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously
> >>> C/C++).
>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> What language is it made in?
>
> >>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>> I have good news!!!
>
> >>>>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
> >>>>> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes 
> >>>>> out.
>
> >>>>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
> >>>>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Oliver Baker
>
> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the
> >>>>>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to
> >>>>>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
> >>>>>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful
> >>>>>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be
> >>>>>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like
> >>>>>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
>
> >>>>>> Rich
>
> >>>>>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that
> >>>>>> I'm not a
> >>>>>> > lawyer...
>
> >>>>>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to
> >>>>>> "modify,
> >>>>>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
> >>>>>> unless
> >>>>>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse
> >>>>>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You
> >>>>>> can read
> >>>>>> > more of the policies at:
> >>>>>>http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
>
> >>>>>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content
> >>>>>> -- which
> >>>>>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to
> >>>>>> build this
> >>>>>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
> >>>>>> consider,
> >>>>>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol
> >>>>>> -- but
> >>>>>> > things are early there at the moment.
>
> >>>>>> > - pamela
>
> >>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
> >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
>
> >>>>>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
> >>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> > >> Hey Oliver-
> >>>>>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep
> >>>>>> the thread
> >>>>>> > >> in the forum.
>
> >>>>>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give
> >>>>>> you a
> >>>>>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape"
> >>>>>> the HTML
> >>>>>> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That
> >>>>>> is why
> >>>>>> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use
> >>>>>> content.
>
> >>>>>> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search
> >>>>>> results would
> >>>>>> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those
> >>>>>> pages that
> >>>>>> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
>
> >>>>>> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data
> >>>>>> API to
> >>>>>> > >> distribute a program like this.
>
> >>>>>> > >> - pamela
>
> >>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> > >>> How dare you Andrey!
>
> >>>>>> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding
> >>>>>> the last
> >>>>>> > >>> Wave server you selected.
>
> >>>>>> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the
> >>>>>> Google Wave
> >>>>>> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login
> >>>>>> page.
>
> >>>>>> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a
> >>>>>> little
> >>>>>> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or
> >>>>>> right
> >>>>>> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to
> >>>>>> see
> >>>>>> > >>> your waves button.
>
> >>>>>> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your
> >>>>>> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
>
> >>>>>> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you
> >>>>>> run exe's
> >>>>>> > >>> you
> >>>>>> > >>> > downloaded online?
> >>>>>> > >>> > - Andrey
>
> >>>>>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
> >>>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? There's
> >>>>>> nowhere
> >>>>>> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials?
>
> >>>>>> > >>> > > ~Scott~
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