I'm on Windows so shall be trying it out over the weekend..

2009/10/23 Eric Dorman <[email protected]>

>
> Hey Oliver,
>
> Did you use the Embed API to make this with it?
>
> This is a great idea.
>
> Thanks & God Bless,
> Eric
>
> On Oct 15, 3:49 pm, Sam Osborne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 1: Ok.
> >
> > 2: No, not make my own project based on yours, help you to translate it.
> If
> > you turn it into C++ (which, if you can't do, I'll try to do) it'll be
> able
> > to run on Windows, Mac AND Linux.
> > I'd be having a look at the VB code, learn how the parts I'm not sure
> about
> > work and what their C++ equivalents are.
> > It's simply because of the fact that .net programs cannot be run on Mac
> or
> > Linux, where some Wave users are. You could TRY getting it to run on AIR,
> > but I'm not sure how that works :S
> > You may want to look at C++ For
> > Dummies<http://samosborneonline.co.cc/Downloads/C++_For_Dummies.pdf>
> >
> > 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Hi Sam,
> > > *Answer to your First Question:*
> >
> > > If you read the whole post you will know I have been given permission
> by
> > > Google to (For This Application only) Breach Condition L of  the Google
> Wave
> > > Program Policy until the relative API is released by Google.
> >
> > > Which means that there is no current API for what I have done.
> >
> > > *Answer to your second question.*
> >
> > > I am assuming that you want to create your own project based on my
> source
> > > code???? Seems pretty harsh Sam.
> >
> > > The Main part of my application that you probably want to obtain is the
> > > part which obtains the information. When the API comes out, my
> applications
> > > source to you that you currently want would be near pointless
> >
> > > The source will be put up on Google Code soon (Within 2-3 days) since
> parts
> > > of it have to be re-written. I don't mind you using my source code. But
> I am
> > > trusting people not to pull a fast one on me.
> >
> > > Hope that answers your questions.
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Oliver Baker
> >
> > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Sam Osborne <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >> Ok.. I can interpret VB.net... Ish.. Now I want to know two things:
> >
> > >>    - How did you manage to get the APIs from whatever language they're
> in
> > >>    (Java/Python I think) to VB?
> > >>    - Where's the source? I wanna see if I can get the source,
> translate
> > >>    it into C++, and then get it to run in Linux..
> >
> > >> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>> Hi Sam,
> > >>> The Application is made in Visual Basic .net 3.5 (Yes, I am only 17,
> > >>> still studying for a Bachelors and VB is easier than C# and obviously
> > >>> C/C++).
> >
> > >>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Sam Osborne <
> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>> What language is it made in?
> >
> > >>>> 2009/10/15 Oliver Baker <[email protected]>
> >
> > >>>> Hi All,
> > >>>>> I have good news!!!
> >
> > >>>>> Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my
> > >>>>> application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API
> comes out.
> >
> > >>>>> I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be
> > >>>>> releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue.
> >
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Oliver Baker
> >
> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of
> the
> > >>>>>> word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start
> to
> > >>>>>> see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites
> > >>>>>> become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with
> meaningful
> > >>>>>> naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping
> can be
> > >>>>>> a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company
> like
> > >>>>>> Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used.
> >
> > >>>>>> Rich
> >
> > >>>>>> On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" <
> [email protected]>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind
> that
> > >>>>>> I'm not a
> > >>>>>> > lawyer...
> >
> > >>>>>> > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted
> to
> > >>>>>> "modify,
> > >>>>>> > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service
> > >>>>>> unless
> > >>>>>> > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially
> reverse
> > >>>>>> > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content.
> You
> > >>>>>> can read
> > >>>>>> > more of the policies at:
> > >>>>>>http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html
> >
> > >>>>>> > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the
> content
> > >>>>>> -- which
> > >>>>>> > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to
> > >>>>>> build this
> > >>>>>> > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to
> > >>>>>> consider,
> > >>>>>> > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server
> protocol
> > >>>>>> -- but
> > >>>>>> > things are early there at the moment.
> >
> > >>>>>> > - pamela
> >
> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer <
> > >>>>>> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
> > >>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> > >> Hey Oliver-
> > >>>>>> > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to
> keep
> > >>>>>> the thread
> > >>>>>> > >> in the forum.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to
> give
> > >>>>>> you a
> > >>>>>> > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to
> "scrape"
> > >>>>>> the HTML
> > >>>>>> > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that.
> That
> > >>>>>> is why
> > >>>>>> > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use
> > >>>>>> content.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a
> link
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>> > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search
> > >>>>>> results would
> > >>>>>> > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those
> > >>>>>> pages that
> > >>>>>> > > include explicit permission for google to scrape.
> >
> > >>>>>> > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google
> data
> > >>>>>> API to
> > >>>>>> > >> distribute a program like this.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >> - pamela
> >
> > >>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker <
> [email protected]>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> How dare you Andrey!
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever
> excluding
> > >>>>>> the last
> > >>>>>> > >>> Wave server you selected.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the
> > >>>>>> Google Wave
> > >>>>>> > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login
> > >>>>>> page.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this
> a
> > >>>>>> little
> > >>>>>> > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or
> > >>>>>> right
> > >>>>>> > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login
> to
> > >>>>>> see
> > >>>>>> > >>> your waves button.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on
> your
> > >>>>>> > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs.
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as
> you
> > >>>>>> run exe's
> > >>>>>> > >>> you
> > >>>>>> > >>> > downloaded online?
> > >>>>>> > >>> > - Andrey
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall <
> > >>>>>> [email protected]>
> > >>>>>> > >>> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something?
> There's
> > >>>>>> nowhere
> > >>>>>> > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials?
> >
> > >>>>>> > >>> > > ~Scott~
> >
>

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