> Let me summarize: what you want is... Java applets, Silverlight, Flash/
> Flex, with a way to do "server push". Well, you already have all this:
> Silverlight can use sockets [1], as well as Flash/Flex [2] (I don't
> know for Java/JavaFX, but as far as I'm concerned java on the web is
> dead for a long time (except on the server side)).
> If you want some form of "standard protocol" to transport typed
> values, instead of plain old binary sockets, you can implement
> WebSockets (or any other protocol) on top of them.
>
Thanks for adding to the discussion, but ...

•As I have already said in several different ways, I know that there
are "solutions" to the challenges I have mentioned. But as Célio
pointed out, they are all kludges. We have constructed a huge Rube-
Golberg machine to crack an egg. That's what originally started me
thinking about this new browser idea.

• Manipulating pull to simulate push is not the same as push.

• Sockets/ports can be blocked. But as I said earlier, hardly anyone
blocks port 80. If we had a standard port for serving application that
allowed push communication, you wouldn't have to worry about it being
blocked.
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