On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:09:13 AM UTC-7, Axel Hecht wrote: > On 02.04.13 00:13, Jishnu wrote: > > > On Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:39:18 PM UTC-7, Axel Hecht wrote: > > > > > >> On to the actual privacy policy: I think there's a host of jargon and > > >> > > >> technical detail in that part. I'm afraid that's not all that > > >> > > >> human-readable, in particular for non-technical audience who's not > > >> > > >> native English speaker. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Much of that is already in > > >> > > >> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/legal/privacy/firefox.html, but I'd prefer > > >> > > >> to make things better. If we could reword it to just not say "snippet" > > >> > > >> at all, for example. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Example of too much detail: does is really matter if the region is > > >> > > >> stored in HTML local storage instead of just stored locally? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Axel > > > Hi Axel, > > > > > > Right now the privacy policy serves two purposes, to give people an > > understanding of what happens to their data as well as give them detail > > about how a privacy impactful feature will work. Your comments actually > > apply to most of the policy and I'm sympathetic because I have the same > > issues with it. Because of this, I've been actually rewriting the whole > > thing with usability and context in mind (with UX, engineering and product > > folks involved) so we can serve both the average user as well as the > > privacy conscious or advocate. I'd love to have you involved as well. > > > > > > Until we have a better framework, the policy needs to serve both purposes, > > which is why this section has so much detail. Since location is impactful > > from a privacy perspective, it's good for the privacy conscious user to > > know how it works in reasonable detail. > > > > > > We'll also be working on making sure as many folks as possible can access > > and understand our policies - this is another place we should be working > > together as well. > > > > > > I've taken some of your input to try and soften the section a bit - my > > recommendation is to get the feature up, provide a reasonably complete > > description per below and work on the v2 privacy policy that would improve > > the flow for the average user. > > > > > > //Begin policy text: > > > > > > Firefox's default home page (<about:home>) loads small bits of information > > which that we think will be useful to you. We call these "snippets". You > > can see them right below the search bar. > > > > > > Once per day, Firefox gets new snippets from Mozilla. Whenever you see a > > snippet, that snippet makes a request to Mozilla, so that we can count how > > often snippets are viewed. This request to Mozilla sends the name of the > > snippet and is securely transmitted over HTTPS. Aside from this and > > standard log data collected as a part of any web request, snippets in > > Firefox does not send other information to Mozilla. > > > > > > To help display relevant snippets, your Firefox browser sends Mozilla a > > monthly request to resolve your location at a country level using your IP > > address. We then send that country level information back to your Firefox > > browser, where it's stored locally. Your Firefox browser (not our web > > servers) will then pick snippets to show you based on the locally stored > > country information. > > I guess this is probably the other way around? The client requests, the > > server filters and returns a subset of all the available snippets?
In other web services, yes, but my understanding is that the server sends the whole list of snippets - the resolution and picking of snippets is done client side. > > > Aside from providing you with the snippets service, we use the information > > from these requests to estimate what fraction of Firefox users click on > > each snippet (broken down into general categories like Firefox version and > > geographic area). We will not use any of the information in this request to > > attempt to identify you or your activity anywhere else online, and we > > aggregate the info we receive into these general categories as soon as is > > practical. > > > > > > You can turn off snippets by following the instructions here: > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/How%20to%20set%20the%20home%20page. > > > > > The text looks better, but I think there are some grammar nits. I'd > > leave those up to a native speaker, though. Examples would be "which > > that we think" and "snippets ... does". > Ok we'll make those changes. > > > Axel _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
